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> games consoles aren't computers either In which sense? As far as I'm aware current consoles are pretty much general computing devices with closed down operat

> games consoles aren't computers either In which sense? As far as I'm aware current consoles are pretty much general computing devices with closed down operating systems. That's essentially the same as an iPhone.

mhh__ 5y ago
Can you run word on an Xbox? Obviously they are computers I just couldn't be bothered to fit the argument in the quotation.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  > Can you run word on an Xbox? Not natively, but you can run pretty much any signed UWP text editor on it without any fuss. If you're willing to pay a $20 developer fee, they'll even let you load unsigned software for a real party.
  - unicornfinder 5y ago
    Indeed, I genuinely think the best thing that Microsoft did to combat piracy on the Xbox was by making it so easy to join the developer programme and build / install your own apps on the Xbox.
    - gjsman-1000 5y ago
      That's actually worse than Apple though - at least Apple lets you download Xcode and install self-signed apps for 7 days between updates without a developer account or a fee.
- jsjohnst 5y ago
  > Can you run word on an Xbox? You could if Microsoft ported it to it. The only reason Word runs on ~handheld computers~ phones is because Microsoft ported it to it.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Not even ported to it. An Xbox is a nonstandard PC - it runs the NT Kernel, with Windows Drivers, on a custom AMD Zen processor, it's just got hardware root of trust, a different frontend, and software signature enforcement. That's about it.
    - jsjohnst 5y ago
      > Not even ported to it. To my knowledge, Word on Windows still depends on Win32, which Xbox doesn’t have. iOS and MacOS both use the mach kernel, on similar processors (at least in the current gen hw). Would you not say it’s validly “porting” if you were to take a MacOS app like say Word and alter it to run on iOS?

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> games consoles aren't computers either In which sense? As far as I'm aware current consoles are pretty much general computing devices with closed down operat

by cassianoleal 5y ago

mhh__ 5y ago
Can you run word on an Xbox? Obviously they are computers I just couldn't be bothered to fit the argument in the quotation.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  > Can you run word on an Xbox? Not natively, but you can run pretty much any signed UWP text editor on it without any fuss. If you're willing to pay a $20 developer fee, they'll even let you load unsigned software for a real party.
  - unicornfinder 5y ago
    Indeed, I genuinely think the best thing that Microsoft did to combat piracy on the Xbox was by making it so easy to join the developer programme and build / install your own apps on the Xbox.
    - gjsman-1000 5y ago
      That's actually worse than Apple though - at least Apple lets you download Xcode and install self-signed apps for 7 days between updates without a developer account or a fee.
- jsjohnst 5y ago
  > Can you run word on an Xbox? You could if Microsoft ported it to it. The only reason Word runs on ~handheld computers~ phones is because Microsoft ported it to it.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Not even ported to it. An Xbox is a nonstandard PC - it runs the NT Kernel, with Windows Drivers, on a custom AMD Zen processor, it's just got hardware root of trust, a different frontend, and software signature enforcement. That's about it.
    - jsjohnst 5y ago
      > Not even ported to it. To my knowledge, Word on Windows still depends on Win32, which Xbox doesn’t have. iOS and MacOS both use the mach kernel, on similar processors (at least in the current gen hw). Would you not say it’s validly “porting” if you were to take a MacOS app like say Word and alter it to run on iOS?