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As much as it is good they're paying you to take on a longer project, most people that are currently employed can't take this project without being in conflict
by raverbashing 5y ago
As much as it is good they're paying you to take on a longer project, most people that are currently employed can't take this project without being in conflict with their current job. (Or even having time for it)
I think tech companies are forgetting that firing people is an option.
- Nursie 5y agoParticularly in the contract market - I often see the process for taking on a contractor or consultant play out the exact same way as for an employee, forgetting that the interview process is very flawed and you can send the consultant home at any point you feel like with zero comeback. That said I’ve also seen companies pay contractors a month’s severance for no reason whatsoever too. A lot of places don’t seem to understand what they’re doing.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agomy contracting contracts - in Denmark - often have a notice period but it is around 1 week to 1 month. I pretty much refuse coding exercises for contract work since it's so easy to get rid of me if you don't like it, and anyway as a contractor you get paid per hour so they should pay me for it. But sometimes there comes a place you really want to work for and they happen to have the coding exercise...
- FooBarWidget 5y agoNo time? Can't people take vacation leave? Yeah it sucks that the time isn't spent on vacation, but you can't have everything in life without some cost.
- Okkef 5y agoYou are either a troll or don't have a family. If you do have a family i feel sorry for them. Life is not just about work.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoI am not trolling. I do have a family. But I am still of the opinion that expecting absolutely no time/cost investment on your part when seeking a new job, is a false entitlement.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y agoIt's not false in the current market. You can spend an order of magnitude less on each company just by learning algos once.
- ivalm 5y agoAt some point the best thing is to just pass on working with them. If the hiring requirement is so draconian that it selects out people with options you end up with a company full of second tier people.
- Ekaros 5y agoCompany is better pay damm well for me to spend my own time to try to get working there. I would evaluate that limit to be multiple times market rates.
- lostdog 5y agoIf you want to interview at 5 places, and they all have 40-hour projects, then what? You disappear from work for a month while you job search?
- Grustaf 5y agoIf you already have a job you are very likely not in desperate need of a new job. If you want a higher salary then you probably need to sacrifice something.
- thinkharderdev 5y agoThat seems like a really counter-productive position to take if you are trying to hire software engineers. The market is currently very hot so if you are limiting yourself to only candidates who are in "desperate need of a new job" then you are probably going to have a lot of trouble finding people.
- Grustaf 5y agoI'm not trying to optimise hiring, I'm just pointing out that from the developers point of view it's not a big issue.
- lostdog 5y agoWe are going to have to agree to disagree here. Anything that eats a full month of my time is a big deal, and I expect companies to be more efficient with my time than this.
- Grustaf 5y agoFew large organizations are very efficient about anything related to HR or management. But I'm not sure where you're getting "one month" from.
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