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What bothered me the most during this whole episode, is that the prices also skyrocketed, here, in Europe. We had nowhere near the same need for wood as north-a
by Fiahil 5y ago
What bothered me the most during this whole episode, is that the prices also skyrocketed, here, in Europe. We had nowhere near the same need for wood as north-american constructions.
- teekert 5y agoBecause the markets are connected? If you have lumber, why sell it on the cheap to Europeans when you can get more from the Americans?
- skybrian 5y agoTransportation costs seem high: > It’s difficult to ship lumber overseas cost effectively: lumber is (or was) one of the least expensive materials on the planet. At $300 per 1000 board feet (the average price over the last 25 years), a 20 foot shipping container holds just $4500 worth of material. The cost of transporting a container across the ocean is $1700 dollars or more. https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/lumber-price-faq https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/lumber-price-faq
- Ekaros 5y agoAnd my understanding is that real shipping rates are currently much higher than the 1700... As are all shipping rates...
- Fiahil 5y agoShipping is so expensive, if you start shipping wood instead of sourcing it locally, then no wonder the price is going to go up even faster. What should have been a good alternative here, is to prevent/taxe massively exports of wood from EU to NA. Prices would have stagnated near a peak in NA and we would have kept our wood supply at a moderated price, here.
- thedougd 5y agoOn the contrary, wood is shipped from the US to Europe for energy. This is Long Leaf Pine, one of the species commonly used for framing homes in the US. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article238395173.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article238395173.... https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/26/biomass-carbon-climate-politics-477620 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/26/biomass-ca...
- Revell 5y agoThat's mainly because we started exporting most of the wood to North America, creating our own shortage here in Europe. Hence, prices went up here too.