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So here's what the police could do next- 1. Record an album 2. Copyright the music and get it to all the social medias for automatic DCMA goodness 3. Play th

So here's what the police could do next- 1. Record an album 2. Copyright the music and get it to all the social medias for automatic DCMA goodness 3. Play the album in all precincts, courthouses, squad cards, prisons, public offices, social disturbances-- like background Musak- or Waffle House music. Hell if they make it corny enough, maybe people will play it for the police. For the lulz. 4. Contract out a third party to pursue DCMA takedowns of anything left behind 5. Use the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center task force for special abusers Ok-- got a little carried away, but there's still a lot of potential here.

Lio 5y ago
That seems like a lot of work. They could just say that John Cage's 4'33" is playing in the background[1]. :P 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3
papercrane 5y ago
Interesting plan, but fair use would be a problem.
- batch12 5y ago
  Hm. Gotta have faith in the algorithm. If that fails then maybe add to the list to make a phone call so you can go after them criminally for wiretapping.
- zucker42 5y ago
  It doesn't matter if the content is actually fair use since the content will just be taken down anyways with little opportunity for appeal because it's YouTube. A bigger hurdle for the police department is the 1st amendment suits a systemized program would attract.
- fabianhjr 5y ago
  You would need to counternotice with your personal details. (And the cops abusing the copyright system would get a copy)
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  YouTube's Content ID ignores Fair Use. Fair Use is an affirmative defence against copyright infringeement. That is, its effective power is used in a court of law as an argument in defence against a criminal or civil copyright complaint. TL;DR: Present policy says "F-U" to Fair Use.
EvRev 5y ago
They just need to collectively buy the rights to the Cops theme song https://youtu.be/fXTn2gSG7es https://youtu.be/fXTn2gSG7es
- dllthomas 5y ago
  ... or Axel F.
willcipriano 5y ago
Get the rights to "Silent Tracks of Various Useful Lengths"[0]. Now you can copy strike anything. [0]https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Tracks-Various-Useful-Lengths/dp/B003GGMH3S https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Tracks-Various-Useful-Lengths/... (Highly recommend the Stadium Remix)
rhizome 5y ago
You have discovered: fraud Let us return to those thrilling days of yesteryear when a firm named "Prenda Law" was still a going concern: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/copyright-troll-john-steele-pleads-guilty-porn-fraud-case-n730931 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/copyright-troll-john-st... It would certainly be a juicy story for a government agency to stray down this path!
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  Your parent comment has nothing to do with the behavior that got Prenda sanctioned, which was representing themselves to the court as a third-party law firm retained by the copyright owner when in fact they were the first-party copyright owner themselves. I have never understood why anyone viewed what happened to Prenda as a victory against copyright trolling. Prenda was a group that engaged in blatant, abusive copyright trolling, yes. And the official opinion of the legal system is that that was fine, and other people should keep doing it.
  - rhizome 5y ago
    Fair enough, I think the collusive part would be a vulnerability in the strategy. But even so, Fair Use is still in play. I imagine the legal fallout from this would be very bad for the police department itself. Communications about this scheme would be public records.
covercash 5y ago
If every police station and cop car in the country exclusively streamed this album, they could probably generate a decent amount of money from Spotify/Apple/YTmusic. I tried doing something similar a while back, I made tracks with white/brown/pink noise to stream while you study or sleep called DonateYourStreams, with all the money going to nonprofits like Watsi & charity:water. Unfortunately DistroKid thought that was a ToS violation and disabled my account.
rootsudo 5y ago
You're 100% and 100% delightfully creative and possibly evil. I can see this all happening and more, but wow the mental gymnastics.
- batch12 5y ago
  Ha thanks, it's my curse.
dkersten 5y ago
Government bodies and public services should not be allowed to copyright things then.
suifbwish 5y ago
If music is playing in a public area then it logically shares the same right to record as photographing someone in public. The infringement lies on the side of the person playing a licensed song in a public venue
- ihattendorf 5y ago
  1. Have unrecognizable person play music in public 2. Record 3. Upload to YouTube 4. Profit
  - suifbwish 5y ago
    Or with current copyright crap, you could also record a whole bunch of common noises you hear in public, nature ect, upload to YouTube as ambient sound effects then go after “infringers” who have a sound clip in their video which is more than 90% similar to yours.

Lio 5y ago

That seems like a lot of work. They could just say that John Cage's 4'33" is playing in the background[1]. :P 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3

papercrane 5y ago

Interesting plan, but fair use would be a problem.

batch12 5y ago
Hm. Gotta have faith in the algorithm. If that fails then maybe add to the list to make a phone call so you can go after them criminally for wiretapping.
zucker42 5y ago
It doesn't matter if the content is actually fair use since the content will just be taken down anyways with little opportunity for appeal because it's YouTube. A bigger hurdle for the police department is the 1st amendment suits a systemized program would attract.
fabianhjr 5y ago
You would need to counternotice with your personal details. (And the cops abusing the copyright system would get a copy)
dredmorbius 5y ago
YouTube's Content ID ignores Fair Use. Fair Use is an affirmative defence against copyright infringeement. That is, its effective power is used in a court of law as an argument in defence against a criminal or civil copyright complaint. TL;DR: Present policy says "F-U" to Fair Use.

EvRev 5y ago

They just need to collectively buy the rights to the Cops theme song https://youtu.be/fXTn2gSG7es https://youtu.be/fXTn2gSG7es

dllthomas 5y ago
... or Axel F.

willcipriano 5y ago

Get the rights to "Silent Tracks of Various Useful Lengths"[0]. Now you can copy strike anything. [0]https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Tracks-Various-Useful-Lengths/dp/B003GGMH3S https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Tracks-Various-Useful-Lengths/... (Highly recommend the Stadium Remix)

rhizome 5y ago

You have discovered: fraud Let us return to those thrilling days of yesteryear when a firm named "Prenda Law" was still a going concern: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/copyright-troll-john-steele-pleads-guilty-porn-fraud-case-n730931 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/copyright-troll-john-st... It would certainly be a juicy story for a government agency to stray down this path!

thaumasiotes 5y ago
Your parent comment has nothing to do with the behavior that got Prenda sanctioned, which was representing themselves to the court as a third-party law firm retained by the copyright owner when in fact they were the first-party copyright owner themselves. I have never understood why anyone viewed what happened to Prenda as a victory against copyright trolling. Prenda was a group that engaged in blatant, abusive copyright trolling, yes. And the official opinion of the legal system is that that was fine, and other people should keep doing it.
- rhizome 5y ago
  Fair enough, I think the collusive part would be a vulnerability in the strategy. But even so, Fair Use is still in play. I imagine the legal fallout from this would be very bad for the police department itself. Communications about this scheme would be public records.

covercash 5y ago

If every police station and cop car in the country exclusively streamed this album, they could probably generate a decent amount of money from Spotify/Apple/YTmusic. I tried doing something similar a while back, I made tracks with white/brown/pink noise to stream while you study or sleep called DonateYourStreams, with all the money going to nonprofits like Watsi & charity:water. Unfortunately DistroKid thought that was a ToS violation and disabled my account.

rootsudo 5y ago

You're 100% and 100% delightfully creative and possibly evil. I can see this all happening and more, but wow the mental gymnastics.

batch12 5y ago
Ha thanks, it's my curse.

dkersten 5y ago

Government bodies and public services should not be allowed to copyright things then.

suifbwish 5y ago

If music is playing in a public area then it logically shares the same right to record as photographing someone in public. The infringement lies on the side of the person playing a licensed song in a public venue

ihattendorf 5y ago
1. Have unrecognizable person play music in public 2. Record 3. Upload to YouTube 4. Profit
- suifbwish 5y ago
  Or with current copyright crap, you could also record a whole bunch of common noises you hear in public, nature ect, upload to YouTube as ambient sound effects then go after “infringers” who have a sound clip in their video which is more than 90% similar to yours.