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I've dealt with similar but less extreme behavior in lane keeping systems where it senses the right-side reference veering away so it "corrects" and follows, ca

I've dealt with similar but less extreme behavior in lane keeping systems where it senses the right-side reference veering away so it "corrects" and follows, causing a veer to the right, so it might not have been trying to turn but instead drive next to the crosswalk at the same distance it was from the curb. Regardless of what happened, that's a really bad bug to have.

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
Interesting. This could explain why it doesn't signal. But honestly even veering like that should elicit a turn signal to notify other drivers of the move.
- GravitasFailure 5y ago
  I'm not sure an extra alert would be helpful since it's either going to alert constantly on streets that twist and turn or it's going to think it's doing nothing wrong and not alert. Same for the turn signal.
  - BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
    I think it should. Having a car in front of you means that part of the view of the road is obstructed. IMO the veering car has a moral duty to signal to the next car especially if the veering is unexpected. Now the state law on signaling says "No person shall turn a vehicle..." but I can't find what the definition for "turn" is, so there may be no legal obligation, but I do see a social obligation.
    - GravitasFailure 5y ago
      You need to signal when you're leaving the lane or street you're currently on, not when it bends. Nobody ever signals on bends because that's sending bad information. Considering how erratic the car was with signaling and turning I really have no idea what it "thought" it was doing at all.
      - diggernet 5y ago
        That's ok, it doesn't have any idea either...
diggernet 5y ago
Nope. Watch the dotted line ahead of the car on the left side of the screen. At the last moment, it suddenly removes the "continue on this road" line, and replaces it with a "go down the road to the right" line. It literally decided to make a sudden turn. You might also notice that while pedestrians and other vehicles are displayed on-screen, not a single one of the solid concrete pillars are displayed. That car is completely blind to them, and at any moment could have made a sudden LEFT turn into one of them.
- bagels 5y ago
  I don't think it's drawing everything on the screen, regardless of whether it recognized those particular barriers?
- GravitasFailure 5y ago
  Ah, good catch, I didn't see that before. Since it was signaling and displaying a lane change to the left just before that I wonder why it didn't signal a sharp right turn then. Maybe it thought that's how the road went?

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago

Interesting. This could explain why it doesn't signal. But honestly even veering like that should elicit a turn signal to notify other drivers of the move.

GravitasFailure 5y ago
I'm not sure an extra alert would be helpful since it's either going to alert constantly on streets that twist and turn or it's going to think it's doing nothing wrong and not alert. Same for the turn signal.
- BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
  I think it should. Having a car in front of you means that part of the view of the road is obstructed. IMO the veering car has a moral duty to signal to the next car especially if the veering is unexpected. Now the state law on signaling says "No person shall turn a vehicle..." but I can't find what the definition for "turn" is, so there may be no legal obligation, but I do see a social obligation.
  - GravitasFailure 5y ago
    You need to signal when you're leaving the lane or street you're currently on, not when it bends. Nobody ever signals on bends because that's sending bad information. Considering how erratic the car was with signaling and turning I really have no idea what it "thought" it was doing at all.
    - diggernet 5y ago
      That's ok, it doesn't have any idea either...

diggernet 5y ago

Nope. Watch the dotted line ahead of the car on the left side of the screen. At the last moment, it suddenly removes the "continue on this road" line, and replaces it with a "go down the road to the right" line. It literally decided to make a sudden turn. You might also notice that while pedestrians and other vehicles are displayed on-screen, not a single one of the solid concrete pillars are displayed. That car is completely blind to them, and at any moment could have made a sudden LEFT turn into one of them.

bagels 5y ago
I don't think it's drawing everything on the screen, regardless of whether it recognized those particular barriers?
GravitasFailure 5y ago
Ah, good catch, I didn't see that before. Since it was signaling and displaying a lane change to the left just before that I wonder why it didn't signal a sharp right turn then. Maybe it thought that's how the road went?