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Another scam to funnel public money to US arms manufacturers
by gghhzzgghhzz 5y ago
Another scam to funnel public money to US arms manufacturers
- dgs_sgd 5y agoProbably, but do you think it’s at least in part a legitimate response to the Chinese threat?
- Lammy 5y agoI bet China says all the same things about us to also justify building things that spy and kill.
- gumby 5y agoHonestly what actual Chinese threat?
- Sophistifunk 5y agoIs that a joke? If China invades Taiwan and the nuclear umbrella is proven to be a fraud, the entire world order will come to a screeching halt as Japan and South Korea kick off an asia-wide arms race, because they have to. And that's assuming Kim does nothing at all.
- rixed 5y agoHonestly, what actual world order ?
- jiggawatts 5y agoThe World Order where small countries aren't simply annexed by superpowers, like it used to happen during the WWI and WWII era. Has the US increased the number of its states any time recently? No. Meanwhile, Russia just waltzed into Crimea and is threatening the rest of Ukraine. China annexed Tibet, then just skipped a few decades of the planned transition of Hong Kong, going straight to the "one China" step and jailing anyone who has different ideas. They're now threating to take over the entire South China sea, and I guarantee you Taiwan is next. Just because of TSMC alone it's incredibly valuable to their long term plans. China has clearly stated these ambitions, and then followed through with military action repeatedly. Just recently, they imposed trade sanctions on Australia that ended tens of billions of dollars worth of exports simply because our PM had the wherewithal to suggest that it might be a good idea to investigate the origins of the Coronavirus. When interviewed on TV, their diplomat directly threatened us, saying that our behaviour is unacceptable and has "consequences". This was not normal for decades. Russia and China want to go back to the "before times" when superpowers went to war to divvy up small countries in between them. Now the "consequences" are that the little guys are tooling up with nukes. This is the new World Order forming, and China is directly responsible for it happening.
- rixed 5y agoDirect land acquisition is out of fashion only because there are better ways of control. That "world order" is indistinguishable from the systematic use of force and economic sanctions to make sure the "little guys" comply with the agenda of the big one. I feel stupid to have to phrase such a banality, hopefully you are not just acting naive? Edit: Indeed, the big one may slowly be losing its advantage due to China development, leading to some readjustment. We should have little preference though, as to which world disorder we prefer.
- refurb 5y ago
- lostmsu 5y agoHong Kong practically happened yesterday.
- jiggawatts 5y agoTaiwan, tomorrow!
- King-Aaron 5y agoThe Chinese are actively trying to establish control of their territories and it's surprising that anyone thinks that there isn't a real threat to global security which comes with that.
- gghhzzgghhzz 5y agoThere's always a new threat. Communism around the globe, middle eastern dictators, Islamic terrorism, Russia now China. All very convenient. "Every War in the past 50 Years is a Result of Media Lies" Jullian Assange If Australia are so concerned about China then stop selling them minerals, stop buying their products etc.
- refurb 5y agoWhat’s the alternative you’re suggesting? Just roll over to China’s demands?
- gghhzzgghhzz 5y agoI'm saying you are being fed these stories.. just as we are always fed stories to manufacture consent e.g. wouldn't have made the news a few years ago. suddenly the Japanese defence minister is being interviewed on CNN. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/15/asia/japan-defense-minister-kishi-china-interview-intl-hnk-ml/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/15/asia/japan-defense-minist... If countries are genuinely concerned about China, then start to disengage commercially with them. Stop buying stuff from them, invest in production of alternative sources for white goods and electronics and cars and plastic stuff. Stop selling them Iron ore and stop encouraging them to invest in your country. Also start to positively engage with the rest of the developing world. Not by handcuffing them with monetary deals from the IMF and world bank, but with genuine selfless goodwill and repatriation to help them develop in sustainable ways.
- refurb 5y agoYou understand that there are about 1,000 different approaches to China that one could take and “economically cutting them off” is clearly escalating things? My impression is nobody really wants to go to war so it’s all soft power projection in the hopes some resolution (even temporary) can be found. And you can’t view the China situation in a vacuum. It’s not like the Asia Pacific countries are all lined up perfectly, it’s all a balance between multiple countries with dozens of competing interests. Not that I don’t disagree that the media selectively reports stories that are pushed by stakeholders with something to gain. But that’s nothing new. Listening to CNN (or any media outlet) won’t actually make you smarter.