M.E.T.A.L (https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...) - hopeful

M.E.T.A.L (https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...) - hopefully "pandemic" won't take the place of the 5 years war between 2020 and 2025