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People like to use the term treason a lot, but as it is defined under Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution, their actions are not treasonous. If you ca
by diskzero 5y ago
People like to use the term treason a lot, but as it is defined under Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution, their actions are not treasonous. If you can prove otherwise, I am all for it though!
Specifically, the were charged with:
Violations of U.S. export control, computer fraud and access device fraud laws. The Department filed the DPA today, along with a criminal information alleging that the defendants conspired to violate such laws.
I think they are losers, scumbags and unethical and I hope that no one who reads HN ever hires them and that they never work in any capacity that comes into contact with IT, Infosec or any other hi-tech industry.
- _3u10 5y agoHow is going to work for more money a loserish activity? My understanding is that the US contractors underpay so being patriotic Americans they went to work for a better company.
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- jjulius 5y agoIs income really the only signifier of what makes an activity loserish to you? Not who they work for, the work they're doing, who it may target, the rules they may actively be choosing to break in the process, etc.?
- _3u10 5y agoLooking at the document it appears that they are working for the same nation state, they just cut out the red tape and a few layers of middlemen. Most people feel in the software field feel the ITAR regulations as applied to code are ridiculous including but not limited to the EFF. Most consider it to be an abridgment of their 1st amendment rights.
- diskzero 5y agoHaving a desire to increase your income is fine. For some, it is their primary motivation, for others it is a result of being recognized for producing valuable results. Each person has their own moral code; for some, even working for Google or Facebook falls outside of that code. I have worked with various companies that have contracts with the US military and other agencies. I wouldn't say they underpay. I would actually say they pay pretty well, but once again, this has to align with whatever your personal values are. Some people are quite happy to work for a three letter acronym agency and couldn't ever conceive of working for a FAANG or a foreign entity. I am sorry that a general perception of Americans might be that we are mercenary and will run after the highest paying opportunity. There are 300 million of us, and I would say that a majority of Americans are driven by values that don't include the theft of national intelligence assets or chasing after money no matter the consequence.
- _3u10 5y agoWhy apologize for greatness, the entire ethos of America is that it’s the best place for the individual. That other countries choose to impoverish and restrict rights is nothing that require apology.
- truted2 5y ago"Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder." -founding father and first president of the United States of America
- _3u10 5y agoLikely why he offered the Hessians 30 acres in addition to citizenship to defect.