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Yeah, he won by 5% not 10% points. But if you look at what happened, is that they were pretty accurate about Biden's percent, and underestimated Trump's (e.g. u
by jonnycomputer 5y ago
Yeah, he won by 5% not 10% points. But if you look at what happened, is that they were pretty accurate about Biden's percent, and underestimated Trump's (e.g. undecideds or shy voters broke for Trump). And again, if your margin of error is 3 points, then a 55-45 could be a 52-48, a 10 pt difference shrinks to a 4 pt difference.
In any case, even if the polls were systematically off, and they may have been, that doesn't justify calling them all propaganda, or bs. It isn't even evidence of it. Because, as it happens, polling people is effing hard.
- bobbytit 5y agoThe fact that ALL the 'major' polls were heavily biased towards Biden, and Clinton before him, is clear evidence of corruption. They are not all bullshit. In 2016 the LA Times/usc poll was honest and accurate, so it was shut down for the 2020 election.
- jonnycomputer 5y agoNo, it is not "clear evidence of corruption". Not even close. It's evidence of being wrong. And no, not all the major polls overly favored Biden. At this point, you're just making crap up. Look, there clearly are some "bullshit polls", and there are partisan polls paid for by candidates which tend to be favorable to them, and there a good polls with consistent bias, a kind of "house" effect as a consequence of their sampling methodology, etc. That's why Nate Silver does averages of polls, btw, and weights polls in the average by their accuracy in previous elections.
- bobbytit 5y agoPlease name one single major poll that did not 'overly favour' Biden? I am happy to engage but please do not accuse me of lying.