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> where worker cooperatives take over the world? Suppose that worker cooperatives have taken over the world. Suppose then that the worker cooperatives must ch

> where worker cooperatives take over the world? Suppose that worker cooperatives have taken over the world. Suppose then that the worker cooperatives must choose between policy options, for example { "increase payments to retired workers", "increase investment in disaster preparedness", "increase investment in infectious disease biochemistry" }. What is your recommendation for how the worker cooperatives should decide how to allocate resources? Presuming you do not recommend prediction markets.

glutamate 5y ago
One member, one vote. Worker cooperatives are democracies.
- tlholaday 5y ago
  > One member, one vote. Worker cooperatives are democracies. Do you agree that the Democratic Caucus of the Colorado State House of Representative is a democracy? In 2020, they eschewed one member, one vote in favor of Quadratic Voting. More here: https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/quadratic-voting-in-colorado-2020/ https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/quadratic-voting-i...
  - glutamate 5y ago
    Interesting, see also the pol.is platform deployed in Taiwan for building consensus statements These are probably experiments worth doing
sudosysgen 5y ago
There are many possible ways for the individual members to decide to vote, in the end it ends with one person one vote. Otherwise the tools we have available are extremely powerful especially when fed good data that is freely available, which is what would be possible if you achieved the (perhaps impossible task) of switching most of the economy to worker coops.
- glutamate 5y ago
  I don't think it is impossible to shift the labour-intensive, non-capital-intensive part of the economy (which is quite a lot) to worker coops. They should be more attractive to both employees and customers than sad outfits with private equity vampire squids wrapped around them.
- tlholaday 5y ago
  > in the end it ends with one person one vote. Do you see tyranny-of-the-majority and factional-rule as evils to be mitigated, or as desirable reflections-of-worker-cooperator-sentiment, regardless of consequences?
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    You can always change workplaces. Yes they are evils to be mitigated, but workplaces are not countries, you can leave and create them quite easily especially when you're entitled to part of the capital of your workplace.

glutamate 5y ago

One member, one vote. Worker cooperatives are democracies.

tlholaday 5y ago
> One member, one vote. Worker cooperatives are democracies. Do you agree that the Democratic Caucus of the Colorado State House of Representative is a democracy? In 2020, they eschewed one member, one vote in favor of Quadratic Voting. More here: https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/quadratic-voting-in-colorado-2020/ https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/quadratic-voting-i...
- glutamate 5y ago
  Interesting, see also the pol.is platform deployed in Taiwan for building consensus statements These are probably experiments worth doing

sudosysgen 5y ago

There are many possible ways for the individual members to decide to vote, in the end it ends with one person one vote. Otherwise the tools we have available are extremely powerful especially when fed good data that is freely available, which is what would be possible if you achieved the (perhaps impossible task) of switching most of the economy to worker coops.

glutamate 5y ago
I don't think it is impossible to shift the labour-intensive, non-capital-intensive part of the economy (which is quite a lot) to worker coops. They should be more attractive to both employees and customers than sad outfits with private equity vampire squids wrapped around them.
tlholaday 5y ago
> in the end it ends with one person one vote. Do you see tyranny-of-the-majority and factional-rule as evils to be mitigated, or as desirable reflections-of-worker-cooperator-sentiment, regardless of consequences?
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  You can always change workplaces. Yes they are evils to be mitigated, but workplaces are not countries, you can leave and create them quite easily especially when you're entitled to part of the capital of your workplace.