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I don't know that I would want to go to a hospital full of unvaccinated staff...

by phren0logy 5y ago

h2odragon 5y ago
They might even have people there of the wrong religion! best stay away, indeed.
AndrewBissell 5y ago
Why not? Don't you have the vaccine?
- pixl97 5y ago
  Do I want to test my vaccine efficiently being around another person that is exposed to hundreds of cases a week? What about every immunocomromised person? You going to sacrifice them because someone read on Facebook that the vaccine made them magnetic? A growing portion of society is getting tired of these plague spreading herman cain nomination recipients demanding their 'freedom' to spread disease to others.
  - AndrewBissell 5y ago
    Any nurse "exposed to hundreds of cases a week" has probably had Covid by now and is thus far less likely to transmit it to you than anyone who never had it but took the vaccine. Even the immunocompromised are probably better off having actual nursing staff (even ones with a marginally higher risk of transmitting Covid) than not having them. I mean, it's kinda funny how the freakout about ICU capacity just disappears the second it's time to start mass firing hospital staff who won't get the shot. Can you point me to a large RCT showing that the unvaccinated are "plague spreaders" for the currently-dominant Delta variant, in comparison to the vaccinated? For the purposes of the comparison I will take a 50% or greater reduction in transmission, although the way the vaccine mandators talk you would think it's 100%.
  - a_conservative 5y ago
    > A growing portion of society is getting tired of these plague spreading herman cain nomination recipients demanding their 'freedom' to spread disease to others. This is the heart of the issue. How will vaccine skeptics and believers co-exist? I guess we could segregate by vaccine status. What do you see as the solution to this problem?
    - pixl97 5y ago
      My take, if you want to reap the benefits of modern society you get a vaccine. Exceptions can exist for those with medical reasons, but not religious.
      - a_conservative 5y ago
        I'm unlikely to get a covid vaccination at this point, so let's use me as an example. Will I be able to earn a living? Will I be able to travel freely? Can I go to the store? Shall I be able to live where I do now or perhaps I should be put into some sort of camp? What exact benefits of modern society should be withheld from the unvaccinated?
        pixl97 5y ago
        Travel on an airplane or public transportation. No. Earn a living? Better find an employer not under a mandate. The store? Well, if they require vaccines to step on the property, you better get one. If you want to act like Typhoid Mary, then feel free to be treated like her.
        a_conservative 5y ago
        So the choice is get the vaccine or "act like Typhoid Mary"? Can you hear how extreme your argument is? Edit: Typhoid Mary is an interesting case. She spent decades in quarantine. She broke quarantine at times and infected people. It's a very interesting article, even more so with the extreme rhetoric in this thread. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
mostertoaster 5y ago
Because you’re clearly the one risking being around a bunch of sick people all the time. You should probably avoid the grocery store too. Those people might appear healthy but under the surface they’re just dirty people trying to get everyone sick. Really we should lock up the unvaccinated until they get with the program.

I don't know that I would want to go to a hospital full of unvaccinated staff...

h2odragon 5y ago

They might even have people there of the wrong religion! best stay away, indeed.

AndrewBissell 5y ago

Why not? Don't you have the vaccine?

pixl97 5y ago
Do I want to test my vaccine efficiently being around another person that is exposed to hundreds of cases a week? What about every immunocomromised person? You going to sacrifice them because someone read on Facebook that the vaccine made them magnetic? A growing portion of society is getting tired of these plague spreading herman cain nomination recipients demanding their 'freedom' to spread disease to others.
- AndrewBissell 5y ago
  Any nurse "exposed to hundreds of cases a week" has probably had Covid by now and is thus far less likely to transmit it to you than anyone who never had it but took the vaccine. Even the immunocompromised are probably better off having actual nursing staff (even ones with a marginally higher risk of transmitting Covid) than not having them. I mean, it's kinda funny how the freakout about ICU capacity just disappears the second it's time to start mass firing hospital staff who won't get the shot. Can you point me to a large RCT showing that the unvaccinated are "plague spreaders" for the currently-dominant Delta variant, in comparison to the vaccinated? For the purposes of the comparison I will take a 50% or greater reduction in transmission, although the way the vaccine mandators talk you would think it's 100%.
- a_conservative 5y ago
  > A growing portion of society is getting tired of these plague spreading herman cain nomination recipients demanding their 'freedom' to spread disease to others. This is the heart of the issue. How will vaccine skeptics and believers co-exist? I guess we could segregate by vaccine status. What do you see as the solution to this problem?
  - pixl97 5y ago
    My take, if you want to reap the benefits of modern society you get a vaccine. Exceptions can exist for those with medical reasons, but not religious.
    - a_conservative 5y ago
      I'm unlikely to get a covid vaccination at this point, so let's use me as an example. Will I be able to earn a living? Will I be able to travel freely? Can I go to the store? Shall I be able to live where I do now or perhaps I should be put into some sort of camp? What exact benefits of modern society should be withheld from the unvaccinated?
      - pixl97 5y ago
        Travel on an airplane or public transportation. No. Earn a living? Better find an employer not under a mandate. The store? Well, if they require vaccines to step on the property, you better get one. If you want to act like Typhoid Mary, then feel free to be treated like her.
        a_conservative 5y ago
        So the choice is get the vaccine or "act like Typhoid Mary"? Can you hear how extreme your argument is? Edit: Typhoid Mary is an interesting case. She spent decades in quarantine. She broke quarantine at times and infected people. It's a very interesting article, even more so with the extreme rhetoric in this thread. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon

mostertoaster 5y ago

Because you’re clearly the one risking being around a bunch of sick people all the time. You should probably avoid the grocery store too. Those people might appear healthy but under the surface they’re just dirty people trying to get everyone sick. Really we should lock up the unvaccinated until they get with the program.