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Because it's not working that sucks. It's having to work that sucks.

by lisper 5y ago

mathattack 5y ago
You can have a lot more fun when you have FU money: at that point it’s about creation, competition or whatever floats your boat.
MattGaiser 5y ago
Or just even having to work for someone specific as jobs are hard to get.
brightball 5y ago
Nicely summed up.
afroisalreadyin 5y ago
This is actually a great point. I would guess that once the pressure is off, you can work more creatively and elaborately, taking the time to understand what is puzzling for you or above your level. Which in turn makes you more eager to work, and much more effective at it.
- bokohut 5y ago
  A great comment supporting another great comment and yes, your "guess" is correct.
- randomopining 5y ago
  That's my goal. Get to 500k savings and then decompress for a bit and really figure out something to work on that seems worthwhile that i want to build my future identity around.
dllthomas 5y ago
Much like cooking.
ible 5y ago
This is actually a great argument for a strong social democracy/welfare state.
- loudtieblahblah 5y ago
  Sort of. If everyone does what they want - who does the jobs no one wants?
  - ible 5y ago
    Automation and/or higher pay tends to make that not a problem.
    - AndrewKemendo 5y ago
      Ah yes, the Keynes Ex Machina
    - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
      automation is just going to take jobs and the higher level jobs will be unobtainable by the working class who won't have the income or childhood stability to afford obtain the education necessary for the jobs not taken by automation. people talk about UBI (which i used to be for, but upon deeper investigation I feel is problematic) and about living wages for the lowest of jobs, but the USA is wholly captured by capital. We have two right wing parties that are controlled by industry. Neither of these things will never come unless its to hold off a violent revolution.
loudtieblahblah 5y ago
If i could take care of my retirement, medical care, my kid's future, etc.... i'd work a very different job if i could. I'd probably work more than i do now. I'd love to run a simple restaurant like a BBQ restaurant or something like that. And i'd never sit at a desk ever again as part of my daily tasks. And i'd fuck-off on HackerNews and Reddit a lot less. I just got a job where I make more than double my last role. It's world-changing types of money and benefits. But it's still a tech job and i'm not even being done training and my "revitalized energy" i got from leaving my last job only lasted like 3 weeks. The reality is, it's still a boring tech job with all the shit i knew I would hate about working at such a larger org. And I'm just burned out on tech. But it's the only thing i know how to do and actually make a living.
- randomopining 5y ago
  Im about to make the same leap as you and I know it'll be the same. What's your plan? I think it would be worse to inflate your lifestyle with all the nice things and still have to work at that new big tech place for decades more
  - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
    i'm basically paying off my car, my (and my wife's) student loans, etc. I would say about 5-10% of the money will go to increased creature comforts or better vacations. But beyond that it's been invested in college savings for my kid, our retirement and such. The reality is, I'm trapped in my role. The only thing to do is continue and enjoy life to the best of my ability outside of work and to use the money i get for the best life i can have. I have a financial opportunity here most people never get. I'm burnt out and disengaged and have only been here a month, but I will continue to work against my attitude and try to make the best of it. I have to.
    - randomopining 5y ago
      Yeah seriously it's an amazing thing. I think you could get to a point where you're doing like 3-4 hours work a day max, and making like 300k+. Ridic. But it's so pointless. Having a family definitely sticks you in more. Maybe you can grind and save up enough that you can take only few month stints or contracted jobs once in awhile. Live in a lower cost of living place and enjoy a simpler life.

Because it's not working that sucks. It's having to work that sucks.

by lisper 5y ago

Because it's not working that sucks. It's having to work that sucks.

You can have a lot more fun when you have FU money: at that point it’s about creation, competition or whatever floats your boat.

MattGaiser 5y ago

Or just even having to work for someone specific as jobs are hard to get.

brightball 5y ago

Nicely summed up.

afroisalreadyin 5y ago

This is actually a great point. I would guess that once the pressure is off, you can work more creatively and elaborately, taking the time to understand what is puzzling for you or above your level. Which in turn makes you more eager to work, and much more effective at it.

bokohut 5y ago
A great comment supporting another great comment and yes, your "guess" is correct.
randomopining 5y ago
That's my goal. Get to 500k savings and then decompress for a bit and really figure out something to work on that seems worthwhile that i want to build my future identity around.

dllthomas 5y ago

Much like cooking.

ible 5y ago

This is actually a great argument for a strong social democracy/welfare state.

loudtieblahblah 5y ago
Sort of. If everyone does what they want - who does the jobs no one wants?
- ible 5y ago
  Automation and/or higher pay tends to make that not a problem.
  - AndrewKemendo 5y ago
    Ah yes, the Keynes Ex Machina
  - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
    automation is just going to take jobs and the higher level jobs will be unobtainable by the working class who won't have the income or childhood stability to afford obtain the education necessary for the jobs not taken by automation. people talk about UBI (which i used to be for, but upon deeper investigation I feel is problematic) and about living wages for the lowest of jobs, but the USA is wholly captured by capital. We have two right wing parties that are controlled by industry. Neither of these things will never come unless its to hold off a violent revolution.

loudtieblahblah 5y ago

If i could take care of my retirement, medical care, my kid's future, etc.... i'd work a very different job if i could. I'd probably work more than i do now. I'd love to run a simple restaurant like a BBQ restaurant or something like that. And i'd never sit at a desk ever again as part of my daily tasks. And i'd fuck-off on HackerNews and Reddit a lot less. I just got a job where I make more than double my last role. It's world-changing types of money and benefits. But it's still a tech job and i'm not even being done training and my "revitalized energy" i got from leaving my last job only lasted like 3 weeks. The reality is, it's still a boring tech job with all the shit i knew I would hate about working at such a larger org. And I'm just burned out on tech. But it's the only thing i know how to do and actually make a living.

randomopining 5y ago
Im about to make the same leap as you and I know it'll be the same. What's your plan? I think it would be worse to inflate your lifestyle with all the nice things and still have to work at that new big tech place for decades more
- loudtieblahblah 5y ago
  i'm basically paying off my car, my (and my wife's) student loans, etc. I would say about 5-10% of the money will go to increased creature comforts or better vacations. But beyond that it's been invested in college savings for my kid, our retirement and such. The reality is, I'm trapped in my role. The only thing to do is continue and enjoy life to the best of my ability outside of work and to use the money i get for the best life i can have. I have a financial opportunity here most people never get. I'm burnt out and disengaged and have only been here a month, but I will continue to work against my attitude and try to make the best of it. I have to.
  - randomopining 5y ago
    Yeah seriously it's an amazing thing. I think you could get to a point where you're doing like 3-4 hours work a day max, and making like 300k+. Ridic. But it's so pointless. Having a family definitely sticks you in more. Maybe you can grind and save up enough that you can take only few month stints or contracted jobs once in awhile. Live in a lower cost of living place and enjoy a simpler life.