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Its probably not worth your time, but I'd like to know which of my comments you consider unsubstantive. I'd say most my comments are terse and I don't care to

Its probably not worth your time, but I'd like to know which of my comments you consider unsubstantive. I'd say most my comments are terse and I don't care to provide references unless requested. My terseness has a point and I try to rely on big picture details that we can all agree on and are readily available to be provided if someone was curious to ask or look themselves (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...). When so many people are vocally willing to set a dangerous new precedent in a state of emergency I think a biting tone may become appropriate. Although I understand that this isn't necessarily a forum meant for discussing such politically charged happenings and you have precedents to worry about yourselves as moderators of this forum.

dang 5y ago
What you're calling "terse" and "biting tone" is frequently flamebait. When you do this, you're breaking the site guideline which says: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." as well as "Eschew flamebait", of course. Examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28515653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28515653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28531159 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28531159 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28530286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28530286 Comments like that aren't worth it to have on HN because the negative effect they have on the threads, and on the culture of the site, dominates any value they're adding. It seems obvious, reading through your comment history, that you have an agenda about this topic. There's nothing wrong with having a view, of course, but an agenda is something different—that's when you're using the site to wage a battle in favor of your view. At that point curiosity has left the building, and curiosity is supposed to be the animating value here.
- peteradio 5y ago
  Definitely I've behaved selfishly and with an agenda. However it is not with a particular outcome in mind except to see a discussion happen among an excellent group of people under excellent moderation. I'm deeply concerned that I have wrong information and am begging to be skewered with the truth. I do think others wanted to see the discussion had as well, so while its selfish on my part its not without broader appeal. This forum is amazing and I thank you so much for your patient moderation.

dang 5y ago

What you're calling "terse" and "biting tone" is frequently flamebait. When you do this, you're breaking the site guideline which says: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." as well as "Eschew flamebait", of course. Examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28515653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28515653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28531159 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28531159 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28530286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28530286 Comments like that aren't worth it to have on HN because the negative effect they have on the threads, and on the culture of the site, dominates any value they're adding. It seems obvious, reading through your comment history, that you have an agenda about this topic. There's nothing wrong with having a view, of course, but an agenda is something different—that's when you're using the site to wage a battle in favor of your view. At that point curiosity has left the building, and curiosity is supposed to be the animating value here.

peteradio 5y ago
Definitely I've behaved selfishly and with an agenda. However it is not with a particular outcome in mind except to see a discussion happen among an excellent group of people under excellent moderation. I'm deeply concerned that I have wrong information and am begging to be skewered with the truth. I do think others wanted to see the discussion had as well, so while its selfish on my part its not without broader appeal. This forum is amazing and I thank you so much for your patient moderation.