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> On the other hand, 14 years is quite a while 14 years is nothing when electric vehicles are only 1% of the current market. There is a wide range of vehicles

> On the other hand, 14 years is quite a while 14 years is nothing when electric vehicles are only 1% of the current market. There is a wide range of vehicles that have no electric alternative available yet, such as vans and off road vehicles. I will be surprised if it doesn't get extended.

dagw 5y ago
such as vans Renault, Nissan, Opel, VW and Mercedes all have an electric van on the market and many more will no doubt be showing up within a couple of years. Now it could be that they aren't currently sold in the US, but that is an easier problem to solve off road vehicles Mercedes, Jeep and Humvee have all announced off road vehicles that will start being sold soon, and I'm sure others will follow
- driverdan 5y ago
  > Renault, Nissan, Opel, VW and Mercedes all have an electric van None of which are cargo vans suitable for business use. They're all minivans. Mercedes and Ford have announced electric full sized vans but they are years away from general availability. > Mercedes, Jeep and Humvee have all announced off road vehicles that will start being sold soon That depends on what you mean by soon. Jeep has a plug in hybrid on the market now, so I guess that's a step in the right direction. Their full electric is only in concept and is years from production. The new Humvee is still vaporware. Mercedes has announced an SUV but it is not an off road vehicle.
  - dagw 5y ago
    None of which are cargo vans suitable for business use. The Mercedes eVito , Nissan NV200, VW Transporter and Crafter, Renault Kangoo etc. are all electric cargo vans specifically targeting commercial use. Admittedly, one problem they all share is that they are big heavy cars built on last gen electric platforms, meaning they have pretty crap range. But they exist and are available on the market today.
ZetaZero 5y ago
I also expect an extension. However, electrics are covering more needs all the time. https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/2022/ https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/2022/

dagw 5y ago

such as vans Renault, Nissan, Opel, VW and Mercedes all have an electric van on the market and many more will no doubt be showing up within a couple of years. Now it could be that they aren't currently sold in the US, but that is an easier problem to solve off road vehicles Mercedes, Jeep and Humvee have all announced off road vehicles that will start being sold soon, and I'm sure others will follow

driverdan 5y ago
> Renault, Nissan, Opel, VW and Mercedes all have an electric van None of which are cargo vans suitable for business use. They're all minivans. Mercedes and Ford have announced electric full sized vans but they are years away from general availability. > Mercedes, Jeep and Humvee have all announced off road vehicles that will start being sold soon That depends on what you mean by soon. Jeep has a plug in hybrid on the market now, so I guess that's a step in the right direction. Their full electric is only in concept and is years from production. The new Humvee is still vaporware. Mercedes has announced an SUV but it is not an off road vehicle.
- dagw 5y ago
  None of which are cargo vans suitable for business use. The Mercedes eVito , Nissan NV200, VW Transporter and Crafter, Renault Kangoo etc. are all electric cargo vans specifically targeting commercial use. Admittedly, one problem they all share is that they are big heavy cars built on last gen electric platforms, meaning they have pretty crap range. But they exist and are available on the market today.

ZetaZero 5y ago

I also expect an extension. However, electrics are covering more needs all the time. https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/2022/ https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/e-transit/2022/