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> More generally, I'm growing tired of how signaling is usurping rational behavior. In what way is retiring gas-powered vehicles by 2035 not "rational behavior

> More generally, I'm growing tired of how signaling is usurping rational behavior. In what way is retiring gas-powered vehicles by 2035 not "rational behavior"? Climate change is very real and the deadline is 14 years from now. If anything you could argue that this law isn't rational enough because it doesn't take quick enough action.

paulgb 5y ago
It's not just climate change, ICE vehicle emissions have health effects: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/10/air-pollution-lung-cancer-heart-failure https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/10/air-pollutio...
twofornone 5y ago
The deadline has been 15 years from now for about 30+ years. Nothing about the climate hysteria is rational. Laymen are choosing the loudest and scariest voices to drive policy, but the truth is that we are just beginning to understand a complex, chaotic, metastable system, which oscillates with periods spanning days, years, centuries, millennia, and eons. The likely worst case is a gradual migration (on the order of 100 years) away from coastal areas and places where the weather becomes less suitable for farming. There are other regions which will become more temperate and ideal for living. In a sense this is likely a positive development as it will become a steady source of economic activity, jobs for millions of people. Runaway climate change, calthrate guns, and a venuslike earth are all low probability outcomes and even if they do happen they will take at least a century (probably longer) with ample time for developing a technological solution if necessary. There is no way currently to prove that we are not simply at the peak of an oscillation, anthropogenic or otherwise. The vast majority of climate models have consistently overpredicted temperatures (which says a lot about the bias in the research community) and one of the major predictors, increasing frequency and intensity of hurricanes, has not yet materialized. Things are most likely not as bad as most laymen have been lead to believe.

paulgb 5y ago

It's not just climate change, ICE vehicle emissions have health effects: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/10/air-pollution-lung-cancer-heart-failure https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/10/air-pollutio...

twofornone 5y ago

The deadline has been 15 years from now for about 30+ years. Nothing about the climate hysteria is rational. Laymen are choosing the loudest and scariest voices to drive policy, but the truth is that we are just beginning to understand a complex, chaotic, metastable system, which oscillates with periods spanning days, years, centuries, millennia, and eons. The likely worst case is a gradual migration (on the order of 100 years) away from coastal areas and places where the weather becomes less suitable for farming. There are other regions which will become more temperate and ideal for living. In a sense this is likely a positive development as it will become a steady source of economic activity, jobs for millions of people. Runaway climate change, calthrate guns, and a venuslike earth are all low probability outcomes and even if they do happen they will take at least a century (probably longer) with ample time for developing a technological solution if necessary. There is no way currently to prove that we are not simply at the peak of an oscillation, anthropogenic or otherwise. The vast majority of climate models have consistently overpredicted temperatures (which says a lot about the bias in the research community) and one of the major predictors, increasing frequency and intensity of hurricanes, has not yet materialized. Things are most likely not as bad as most laymen have been lead to believe.