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For reference[1]. Apple also managed to cause lasting damage to HTC as a brand when they ventured into the US. I don't HTC ever recovered from that, although i

For reference[1]. Apple also managed to cause lasting damage to HTC as a brand when they ventured into the US. I don't HTC ever recovered from that, although it might not have been the only problem they had. [1] https://morningconsult.com/opinions/apple-v-samsung-scotus-sided-reason-rounded-corners/ https://morningconsult.com/opinions/apple-v-samsung-scotus-s...

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Seems like small pickles compared to Android brands damaging themselves by not supporting their own devices with software updates after 18 months. That is what drove me away. I assume this is still true, and my iOS devices will receive software updates for longer than Android devices.
- Sunspark 5y ago
  I would rather use an unsupported device that has the ability to do a variety of things than a supported device that doesn't allow various features which is the case with iOS for me. With Apple, it's their way or the highway.
  - Damogran6 5y ago
    So do the hackers and Zero Day Exploit day traders.
    - nisegami 5y ago
      This is so pointless, but I feel like 0-day exploit sellers benefit if everyone is up to date, as it means you need a 0-day to exploit those devices (making those exploits more valuable). But if everyone is running out of date software, who cares if it's a 0-day?
    - lenkite 5y ago
      Zero-day's are more expensive for Android nowadays https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-zerodium/ https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-z...
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    I understand, but in terms of mass market appeal, most people just want to be able to safely take pics and share them and participate in group chats and browse the web and play some games. Granted, most people would not be able to discern security updates and software updates or maybe even care about them nowadays, but back when the ecosystems and reputations were being established in early 2010s, Android vendors really dropped the ball. Everyone could see their relatives continuing to use iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 a couple more years and getting visibly updated for a couple more years than competing Androids (even from Google themselves!). The resell value of iPhones was more as well, and I assume many or most people figured out that the probability of iOS devices outlasting competing Android devices was high.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

Seems like small pickles compared to Android brands damaging themselves by not supporting their own devices with software updates after 18 months. That is what drove me away. I assume this is still true, and my iOS devices will receive software updates for longer than Android devices.

Sunspark 5y ago
I would rather use an unsupported device that has the ability to do a variety of things than a supported device that doesn't allow various features which is the case with iOS for me. With Apple, it's their way or the highway.
- Damogran6 5y ago
  So do the hackers and Zero Day Exploit day traders.
  - nisegami 5y ago
    This is so pointless, but I feel like 0-day exploit sellers benefit if everyone is up to date, as it means you need a 0-day to exploit those devices (making those exploits more valuable). But if everyone is running out of date software, who cares if it's a 0-day?
  - lenkite 5y ago
    Zero-day's are more expensive for Android nowadays https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-zerodium/ https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-z...
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I understand, but in terms of mass market appeal, most people just want to be able to safely take pics and share them and participate in group chats and browse the web and play some games. Granted, most people would not be able to discern security updates and software updates or maybe even care about them nowadays, but back when the ecosystems and reputations were being established in early 2010s, Android vendors really dropped the ball. Everyone could see their relatives continuing to use iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 a couple more years and getting visibly updated for a couple more years than competing Androids (even from Google themselves!). The resell value of iPhones was more as well, and I assume many or most people figured out that the probability of iOS devices outlasting competing Android devices was high.