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You're right. I used to programming quotes so much that every variation from it makes a pain. Especially mentioned below the automatic quote replacement by some

by trzeci 5y ago

You're right. I used to programming quotes so much that every variation from it makes a pain. Especially mentioned below the automatic quote replacement by some text editor. Which does not make sense for me, when I paste a code snippet. Another pain is when I see such code snippets on the web. For the clarity, it's not only the US quotes I have a problem with. Other languages have also their corks: - PL: „quote” - PL: ‚quote’ (single variant) - PL: ‘quote’ (british variant) - FR: «quote» - DE: »quote«

seszett 5y ago
French quotes, unlike most others, must also be surrounded by spaces (like the other punctuation signs that are made of two parts) like this: FR : « quote » And all of the spaces except for the one after the ":" should be non-breaking spaces.
Udo_Schmitz 5y ago
DE would be: „Zitat“. »Zitat« is also allowed. «Zitat» is mostly used in Switzerland and Liechtenstein. Note missing spaces compared to French. (Edited after correction from user bloak below)
- bloak 5y ago
  > »« is allowed but mostly used in Switzerland I think it's «...» in Switzerland, while »...« is widely used in several countries, including Germany, and is the "main" system arguably only in Denmark. See https://jakubmarian.com/map-of-quotation-marks-in-european-languages/ https://jakubmarian.com/map-of-quotation-marks-in-european-l...
  - Udo_Schmitz 5y ago
    You are of course right and I edited my comment accordingly.
- cygx 5y ago
  DE would be: „Zitat“ I thought you made another mistake here, but it turns out it's just my font that is broken. For anyone else who might have this problem: The closing marks are supposed to go from bottom left to top right, whereas they are displayed going from top left to bottom right :(
  - Udo_Schmitz 5y ago
    Yeah, Hacker News defaults to the Geneva font. Those quotation marks are not pretty :(
rjsw 5y ago
One thing that irritates me is seeing "foreign" quoting styles in English, do editors or keyboard settings do this automatically ? If I'm writing French then I will use «quote», I don't mix things between languages.
- frosted-flakes 5y ago
  I could say the same about punctuation spacing. For some reason, I see this mistake a lot in some places like Quora (which is popular in India): "Putting the space before punctuation ,like this .It drives me nuts .How could anyone ever think that is correct ?" Also, French conventions like putting the dollar sign after the amount (123$), or spaces in between all punctuation, like you used in your first sentence.
  - rjsw 5y ago
    > Also, French conventions like ... or spaces in between all punctuation, like you used in your first sentence. I'm a native English speaker, French is my second language.
mzs 5y ago
Polish also has m-dash quotes for dialogue and nesting quotes that alternate Polish/inverted-French. https://culture.pl/en/article/pen-to-paper-mastering-the-quirks-of-polish-writing https://culture.pl/en/article/pen-to-paper-mastering-the-qui...

by trzeci 5y ago

seszett 5y ago

French quotes, unlike most others, must also be surrounded by spaces (like the other punctuation signs that are made of two parts) like this: FR : « quote » And all of the spaces except for the one after the ":" should be non-breaking spaces.

Udo_Schmitz 5y ago

DE would be: „Zitat“. »Zitat« is also allowed. «Zitat» is mostly used in Switzerland and Liechtenstein. Note missing spaces compared to French. (Edited after correction from user bloak below)

bloak 5y ago
> »« is allowed but mostly used in Switzerland I think it's «...» in Switzerland, while »...« is widely used in several countries, including Germany, and is the "main" system arguably only in Denmark. See https://jakubmarian.com/map-of-quotation-marks-in-european-languages/ https://jakubmarian.com/map-of-quotation-marks-in-european-l...
- Udo_Schmitz 5y ago
  You are of course right and I edited my comment accordingly.
cygx 5y ago
DE would be: „Zitat“ I thought you made another mistake here, but it turns out it's just my font that is broken. For anyone else who might have this problem: The closing marks are supposed to go from bottom left to top right, whereas they are displayed going from top left to bottom right :(
- Udo_Schmitz 5y ago
  Yeah, Hacker News defaults to the Geneva font. Those quotation marks are not pretty :(

rjsw 5y ago

One thing that irritates me is seeing "foreign" quoting styles in English, do editors or keyboard settings do this automatically ? If I'm writing French then I will use «quote», I don't mix things between languages.

frosted-flakes 5y ago
I could say the same about punctuation spacing. For some reason, I see this mistake a lot in some places like Quora (which is popular in India): "Putting the space before punctuation ,like this .It drives me nuts .How could anyone ever think that is correct ?" Also, French conventions like putting the dollar sign after the amount (123$), or spaces in between all punctuation, like you used in your first sentence.
- rjsw 5y ago
  > Also, French conventions like ... or spaces in between all punctuation, like you used in your first sentence. I'm a native English speaker, French is my second language.

mzs 5y ago

Polish also has m-dash quotes for dialogue and nesting quotes that alternate Polish/inverted-French. https://culture.pl/en/article/pen-to-paper-mastering-the-quirks-of-polish-writing https://culture.pl/en/article/pen-to-paper-mastering-the-qui...