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Every time unions come up on hacker news, I feel I step into a surreal dystopia. I live in a country where almost everyone is part of some union. It's not "if",
by okamiueru 5y ago
Every time unions come up on hacker news, I feel I step into a surreal dystopia. I live in a country where almost everyone is part of some union. It's not "if", it's mostly "which".
I was once part of an oncall rotation at work. We got 100% overtime, and a minimum of 2 hours regardless of how time consuming the actual issue was. Answer an email? Two hours overtime pay.
The idea that an individual stands a chance against a company, and that unions somehow don't change this dynamic for the better of the workers is so detached from reality, that I'm almost impressed at how effective propaganda campaigns must have been in the US.
The last epoch US workers had decent working conditions was in a time when unions were a lot more common. People fought and died for this. They didn't piss off and go golfing for a day.
This is also just.. History. It shouldn't be hard to look this up,so here is one of the first websearches that seemed to cover the trends: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/union-membership-middle-class-income_n_3948543.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/union-membership-mi...
- pyuser583 5y agoWhich country?
- niij 5y agoWhat's the PPP pay per hour and hours worked per week compared to the US?
- okamiueru 5y agoFrom som cursory searching for stats: OECD 2016, 27 hours per week vs 34 in the US. They are from different years, so not sure how comparable they are. Also, PPP probably also matters little unless you take into account the cost of living? And doesn't capture polarized inequality.
- niij 5y ago> PPP probably also matters little unless you take into account the cost of living The point of PPP vs raw GDP is to take cost of living into account. Without knowing the country you're referring to, I can't really compare or discuss further. > And doesn't capture polarized inequality The Gini coefficient does.
- vmladenov 5y agoIn the US, the UAW union has been fighting electrification of vehicles due to concerns about job losses. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-environment-and-nature-environment-ap-fact-check-729167555cfc4b62df17ffbf43e51e9a https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-environment-an...