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I assume the proposal is that the vaccine card would be a de-facto immunity card, where a test showing a high antibody count would still be logged on your card

by Pxtl 5y ago

I assume the proposal is that the vaccine card would be a de-facto immunity card, where a test showing a high antibody count would still be logged on your card as an alternative to the vaccine. But the devil's in the details anyways. How long would that be considered good for, since we'll probably be looking at regular annual boosters? Would extremist anti-vaxxers have a perverse incentive to get infected so as to rejoin society while avoiding the vaccine?

bigcorp-slave 5y ago
I’d support an immunity card with the same audit trail for antibody test. I think most people would - general common sense suggests that natural infection should be effective. How long it lasts, I guess we’ll need to study that. Honestly the problem here is not the science. It’s the big clump of people who have turned being against the science into a part of their identity. Every time I think we have hit the bottom as a country in terms of the power of ignorance (and evil, on the part of the GOP establishment), we keep going. What I find especially perverse is that these people are here! On Hacker News! I just don’t understand how someone can be in the technology field and yet so virulently pro-disease. Any comment that points out that IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE MURDERED 650,000 AMERICANS AND ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL AS MANY MORE AS THEY CAN gets downvoted below zero.
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  > Every time I think we have hit the bottom as a country in terms of the power of ignorance (and evil, on the part of the GOP establishment), we keep going. > Any comment that points out that IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE MURDERED 650,000 AMERICANS AND ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL AS MANY MORE AS THEY CAN gets downvoted below zero. That's because the comments like these are political hysteria designed to get others to vote for your team...
  - bigcorp-slave 5y ago
    They’re not. They’re statements of fact. I mean them very sincerely - the modern Republican Party is Evil. True, pure evil, in a way that I would never have believed was possible in this country until a few years back. Anyone voting for them is at best ignorant and at worst complicit.
    - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
      > They’re statements of fact. I mean them very sincerely - the modern Republican Party is Evil. Then I submit you are embarrassingly ignorant of history and the rest of the world.
      - dang 5y ago
        Please do not take HN threads further into political flamewar and please follow the site guidelines regardless of how bad another commenter's posts are, or you feel they are. Doing this only makes the thread even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - esoterae 5y ago
    ITYM political projection. Fomenting hysteria is a well-documented tool of science deniers. Not so much the scientists, as their spoken words typically mirror reality.
- pigeonhole123 5y ago
  Maybe you should question that conclusion when as you said people you respect are questioning what’s going on? I don’t know how to better put it but if the science requires unquestioning obedience to an already decided conclusion then maybe it isn’t science. I’m European and I’m outside that republican thing for the record, just in case that matters to you.
  - bigcorp-slave 5y ago
    No one I respect is questioning this - on the contrary, I see a vast collection of people whom I despise in a dark alliance to kill as many people as possible to score points from their deluded base.
- dang 5y ago
  Could you please stop posting this sort of inflammatory dross to HN? It's getting downvoted for the obvious reason that it breaks the site guidelines and is not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been doing this a ton lately. Moreover, we've asked you repeatedly in the past to stop. If you continue this way we're going to have to ban you, so really, would you please review the guidelines and use HN as intended?

by Pxtl 5y ago

bigcorp-slave 5y ago

I’d support an immunity card with the same audit trail for antibody test. I think most people would - general common sense suggests that natural infection should be effective. How long it lasts, I guess we’ll need to study that. Honestly the problem here is not the science. It’s the big clump of people who have turned being against the science into a part of their identity. Every time I think we have hit the bottom as a country in terms of the power of ignorance (and evil, on the part of the GOP establishment), we keep going. What I find especially perverse is that these people are here! On Hacker News! I just don’t understand how someone can be in the technology field and yet so virulently pro-disease. Any comment that points out that IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE MURDERED 650,000 AMERICANS AND ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL AS MANY MORE AS THEY CAN gets downvoted below zero.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
> Every time I think we have hit the bottom as a country in terms of the power of ignorance (and evil, on the part of the GOP establishment), we keep going. > Any comment that points out that IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE MURDERED 650,000 AMERICANS AND ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL AS MANY MORE AS THEY CAN gets downvoted below zero. That's because the comments like these are political hysteria designed to get others to vote for your team...
- bigcorp-slave 5y ago
  They’re not. They’re statements of fact. I mean them very sincerely - the modern Republican Party is Evil. True, pure evil, in a way that I would never have believed was possible in this country until a few years back. Anyone voting for them is at best ignorant and at worst complicit.
  - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
    > They’re statements of fact. I mean them very sincerely - the modern Republican Party is Evil. Then I submit you are embarrassingly ignorant of history and the rest of the world.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please do not take HN threads further into political flamewar and please follow the site guidelines regardless of how bad another commenter's posts are, or you feel they are. Doing this only makes the thread even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- esoterae 5y ago
  ITYM political projection. Fomenting hysteria is a well-documented tool of science deniers. Not so much the scientists, as their spoken words typically mirror reality.
pigeonhole123 5y ago
Maybe you should question that conclusion when as you said people you respect are questioning what’s going on? I don’t know how to better put it but if the science requires unquestioning obedience to an already decided conclusion then maybe it isn’t science. I’m European and I’m outside that republican thing for the record, just in case that matters to you.
- bigcorp-slave 5y ago
  No one I respect is questioning this - on the contrary, I see a vast collection of people whom I despise in a dark alliance to kill as many people as possible to score points from their deluded base.
dang 5y ago
Could you please stop posting this sort of inflammatory dross to HN? It's getting downvoted for the obvious reason that it breaks the site guidelines and is not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been doing this a ton lately. Moreover, we've asked you repeatedly in the past to stop. If you continue this way we're going to have to ban you, so really, would you please review the guidelines and use HN as intended?