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Ok, let’s use your terminology and say they are postponing the rollout. You speak as though they’ve already rolled it out. It could also be an indefinite postpo

Ok, let’s use your terminology and say they are postponing the rollout. You speak as though they’ve already rolled it out. It could also be an indefinite postponement. Yet you insist on painting the narrative as if it already occurred. Guilty until proven innocent. I’ll be right there next to you protesting my right to privacy if they do rollout the feature against our wishes, but until then I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Also you mention every time Apple is challenged they contend that customers were confused what instances are you referring to?

post_break 5y ago
https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-executive-defends-tools-to-fight-child-porn-acknowledges-privacy-backlash-11628859600 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-executive-defends-tools-t... https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5yzq/apple-defends-its-anti-child-abuse-imagery-tech-after-claims-of-hash-collisions https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5yzq/apple-defends-its-ant... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-says-it-will-refuse-govt-demands-to-expand-photo-scanning-beyond-csam/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-says-it-wi... I mean I could go on but benefit of the doubt is gone after seeing Craig defend them so adamantly. Why would Apple go to all this trouble, get some push back, and just throw their hands up and say you're right, we're not going to search for CSAM, sorry!
- kjreact 5y ago
  All the articles that you linked came prior to when Apple officially postponed the rollout. Doesn’t Apple have the right to explain and defend their position? Even though they tried defending their view adamantly they still ultimately didn’t go through with it. So why should I doubt their intentions? IMO, I believe Apple was trying to offload CSAM scanning to devices to save some server-side processing costs. It was an example of Apple being stingy and penny pinching instead of anything nefarious.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    That's an awfully generous viewpoint to take. One might imagine that the world's largest, highest valued company would find a more elegant solution than turning my phone into a portion of their botnet.

post_break 5y ago

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-executive-defends-tools-to-fight-child-porn-acknowledges-privacy-backlash-11628859600 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-executive-defends-tools-t... https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5yzq/apple-defends-its-anti-child-abuse-imagery-tech-after-claims-of-hash-collisions https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5yzq/apple-defends-its-ant... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-says-it-will-refuse-govt-demands-to-expand-photo-scanning-beyond-csam/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-says-it-wi... I mean I could go on but benefit of the doubt is gone after seeing Craig defend them so adamantly. Why would Apple go to all this trouble, get some push back, and just throw their hands up and say you're right, we're not going to search for CSAM, sorry!

kjreact 5y ago
All the articles that you linked came prior to when Apple officially postponed the rollout. Doesn’t Apple have the right to explain and defend their position? Even though they tried defending their view adamantly they still ultimately didn’t go through with it. So why should I doubt their intentions? IMO, I believe Apple was trying to offload CSAM scanning to devices to save some server-side processing costs. It was an example of Apple being stingy and penny pinching instead of anything nefarious.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  That's an awfully generous viewpoint to take. One might imagine that the world's largest, highest valued company would find a more elegant solution than turning my phone into a portion of their botnet.