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Which software? Drone target acquisition or TikTok?

• Cilvic 5y ago
  Both. All?
  • bserge 5y ago
    Granted, Hacker News is banned for causing depression in too many people :D Mozilla went bankrupt because too many ~~idiots~~ outstanding citizens tripped and fell while using Firefox. YouTube was banned for causing deaths with their irresponsible use of information. Who knew fixing a car, building a high powered laser or eating a Tide pod is dangerous? Not the users' fault.
    • qualudeheart 5y ago
      Hacker News causes depression in me. I learnt to code believing it would let me live a meaningful and productive life. I was wrong. I see all these wonderful innovations happening and I miss out on their benefits.
• sanxiyn 5y ago
  Web browsers, to start. Why are Apple and Google not liable for zero days of Safari and Chrome? How is it sane? Grace period may be necessary, but it needs to happen.
  • clipradiowallet 5y ago
    You don't pay for these products though, which removes most of your options to seek monetary damages for <anything>. The same argument applies to nearly all [free] software - whether it's Chromium or curl.
    • sanxiyn 5y ago
      I do pay for iPhone and Safari comes preinstalled on iPhone. Maybe either Apple should be liable for Safari or Safari should not be preinstalled on iPhone. You can't have it both ways.
      • lostlogin 5y ago
        Argh, it would allow another stupid round of “But the browser is built into the OS”.
  • gruez 5y ago
    > Web browsers, to start. Why are Apple and Google not liable for zero days of Safari and Chrome? How is it sane? Is is even possible to make a browser without 0days?
    • sanxiyn 5y ago
      Is it even possible to make an airplane that does not crash?
      • gruez 5y ago
        No. They crash all the time. You're suggesting that we hold airplane makers responsible for any and all crashes.
        • sanxiyn 5y ago
          I didn't? I opined web browser "manufacturers" should be liable, like airplane manufacturers. That seems certain to me. Whether automatic liability makes sense, as argued in OP about workplace safety, is less certain, but probably yes. Many zero days are triggered by just clicking a link. For such cases, it is hard to argue one is operating it wrong.
          • gruez 5y ago
            Computers can't be compared to airplanes because computers operate in an adversarial environment whereas airplanes don't. A computer crashing because of a specially crafted malicious request isn't really comparable to a plane dropping out of the sky. Consider another product that operate in an adversarial environment: locks. Should lock manufacturers be liable if their locks were pickable?
            • ClumsyPilot 5y ago
              Being struck by lightning and hail sound plenty adversarial to me. Meanwhile equifax and co just leave your data unprotected, no adversary required