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From the preprint ( https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2107/2107.10356.pdf https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2107/2107.10356.pdf ) : " In this work, we define
by drocer88 5y ago
From the preprint ( https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2107/2107.10356.pdf https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2107/2107.10356.pdf ) : " In this
work, we define racial identity as a social, political, and legal construct that relates to the
interaction between external perceptions (i.e. “how do others see me?”) and self-identification,
and specifically make use of the self-reported race of patients in all of our experiments. "
- JoeAltmaier 5y agoThank you. Exactly as I feared. Its a social definition, and makes it even more weird that an AI could predict from physical attributes i.e. an x-ray.
- HideousKojima 5y agoWhat percentage of dark skinned people of African descent do you think wouldn't self-identity as black? Same for percentage of light skinned European descent, Asian descent, Central/South American descent, etc.? I'm sure there are some out there who would identify as a different race, and there are people of mixed heritage that throw a wrench in the works too, but the vast majority of humans will self-identity as a race that matches with their skin color and heritage.
- JoeAltmaier 5y agoAnd there lies the fundamental socially-embedded racism inherent in the idea of 'black'. That somehow, having even a fraction of an ancestral African lineage makes a person 'black' - it taints them, stains them and they are automatically labelled as that part, even though they may be 95% other lineages. For clarity: Why isn't a person who has even 1/64th of a 'white' heritage automatically termed 'white'? It makes exactly as much sense that way. Yet we choose the other. It's clear that an AI cannot know about this cultural bias. So how on earth can it map an x-ray to the imaginary idea of 'black'?