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I just got an unsanctioned booster in NY (a 2nd J&J). I expect a 2nd J&J, though classified as a booster, to provide an immunogenic response comparable to a sec
by setgree 5y ago
I just got an unsanctioned booster in NY (a 2nd J&J). I expect a 2nd J&J, though classified as a booster, to provide an immunogenic response comparable to a second dose of Moderna or Pfizer; the fact that J&J marketed itself as a 1-dose rather than 2-dose solution seems to have been motivated by a desire to get to market faster [0] rather than something intrinsic about the vaccine, and we already know that one dose of J&J ~= one dose of Moderna/Pfizer [1].
Now that many months have passed since our first dose, I think it makes sense for people who got Johnson & Johnson to get a second dose, and to treat it as a "full" dosage, equivalent to the Moderna/Pfizer/AZ shots.
I basically decided to go it alone, and diverge from our public health experts, when the CDC started recommending boosters for people who got Moderna and Pfizer shots and not for people who got J&J; as Alex Tabarrok pointed out at the time [2], that makes no sense. In light of that, I think we need to do our best to apply scientific reasoning to the issue, rather than deferring to people with scientific degrees and political authority.
[0] https://apnews.com/article/which-virus-vaccine-shot-is-best-82a23b237ffb6a15624daa8616166f00 https://apnews.com/article/which-virus-vaccine-shot-is-best-...
[1] https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/02/single-shot-and-first-doses-first.html https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/02/si...
[2] https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/08/the-fda-and-cdc-standards-on-the-jj-vaccine-and-the-immunocompromised-are-unintelligible.html https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/08/th...
- adolph 5y ago> I basically decided to go it alone . . . apply scientific reasoning to the issue Please be sure to publish the results of your study of one.
- setgree 5y agoit's been two whole days since my booster and no covid yet :)
- adolph 5y agoOk, let’s put that on PLOS and roll up some sleeves!
- shapefrog 5y agoI hope it goes ok. If n=1 or 100% of the participants in this study trips over and falls, or has anything else out of the ordinary happen, then it means bad things for the other 7.9billion people when we extrapolate it up.
- exo-pla-net 5y agoYou've convinced me to do the same. Thanks. Tip for anyone following suit: If you're worried that they'll "catch" that they've already vaccinated you, by seeing your name and address in their database, just claim that your parent/child has the same name and lives with you. You can search for a provider of your desired type of vaccine here: https://www.vaccines.gov/search/ https://www.vaccines.gov/search/
- setgree 5y agoYou're welcome, I hope it goes well; of course I am not a doctor not a source of medical advice etc. RE: addresses: they just grabbed my driver's license and asked if I was still in the same address; the actual answer was no and I gave my new address. so you can say whatever you'd like
- JohnWhigham 5y agoGet a 2nd dose of what? J&J? I'm in the same boat as you (also got J&J). I thought it was temporarily pulled off the market by the FDA too?
- setgree 5y agoyes J&J, and yes, it's back on the market; it got pulled off for like a week or two in April but returned shortly thereafter: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-and-cdc-lift-recommended-pause-johnson-johnson-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-use-following-thorough https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-and-...