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If only I could understand the difference between java 1.8, 8 and 18.

jsiepkes 5y ago
Starting from 1.6 they only showed the minor version number. So 1.6 = Java 6, 1.8 = Java 8, etc. I always assumed this was because .net (arguably it's main competitor) was churning fast through version numbers and they "wanted to keep up".
- shadycuz 5y ago
  Ahh so 17, is 1.17? I swear I googled this like 2 months ago and the first 2 or 3 links weren't helpful so I gave up. Thanks!
  - shawnz 5y ago
    Effectively yes, but the "1.x" format is deprecated since Java 9 and not used anymore, whereas versions 5 through 8 used both notations. See https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/223#Dropping-the-initial-1-element-from-version-numbers https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/223#Dropping-the-initial-1-ele...
- oaiey 5y ago
  And now it is the other way around. C# burning through the versions to catch up the versions (and not so much the content). PS: had to edit, was really just a note about the numbers not the content of the versions!!!
  - x0n 5y ago
    Catch up to what? The JDK 17 JEP list reads like a list of things that were added to dotnet years ago.
    - jsiepkes 5y ago
      Thats kind of a hyperbole. .net didn't add support for macOS on ARM64 years ago. .net also didn't implement 2D rendering on macOS via Metal. etc. As a matter of fact .net didn't even support any other platform then Windows until recently.
      - metaltyphoon 5y ago
        Also hyperbole, dotnet supported other platforms years ago via mono.
        jsiepkes 5y ago
        I think I would be generous if I stated 10% of the .net applications ran on Mono instead of MS CLR without source modifications. I even doubt more then 60% of the .net applications ran on .net Core (needed for other platforms then Windows) without modifications. Meaning .net has nowhere near the "write once, run anywhere" support Java has.
    - oaiey 5y ago
      Just version numbers, not content :)
  - DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
    C# has never had to play catch-up with Java, it's always been the other way around.
    - pulse7 5y ago
      Ohhh.... C# was invented as a response to Java... So it had to play catch-up with Java - at it's inception...
      - jsiepkes 5y ago
        Even worse: C# came as a response when Microsoft failed to apply their embrace, extend, extinguish tactic on Java like they did with Netscape[1]. In the end the case was settled out of court and MS agreed to pay more then 1 billion dollar to Sun. MS also agreed to license a whole slew of patents for use with .net. [1] https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/sun-sues-microsoft-for-1-billion-over-java https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/sun-sues-microsof...
- nobleach 5y ago
  It was a very Sun-like thing to do. Sun dropped the 2. after their 2.6 release. Solaris 7 was the next release... then 8.
deepsun 5y ago
I wish they would name it 2021, 2022 etc.
- bcrosby95 5y ago
  They have a 6 month release cadence.
  - codetrotter 5y ago
    2021.0, 2021.5, 2022.0, … :^)
    - hocuspocus 5y ago
      They tried for a short while (I think Java 10 was supposed to be 18.3) but stuck to incrementing major versions after all.
rickette 5y ago
1.8 and 8 are the same thing. Java switched to full version numbers like 9, 10, 11, etc now 17 some time ago.
codetrotter 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history > J2SE 5.0 > […] > The release on September 30, 2004 was originally numbered 1.5, which is still used as the internal version number. The number was changed to "better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE". and > This version introduced a new versioning system for the Java language, although the old versioning system continued to be used for developer libraries: >> Both version numbers "1.5.0" and "5.0" are used to identify this release of the Java 2 Platform Standard Edition. Version "5.0" is the product version, while "1.5.0" is the developer version. The number "5.0" is used to better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE. >> — Version 1.5.0 or 5.0?[32] [32]: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5.0.html http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5....
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Starting from 1.6 they only showed the minor version number. So 1.6 = Java 6, 1.8 = Java 8, etc. I always assumed this was because .net (arguably it's main competitor) was churning fast through version numbers and they "wanted to keep up".

shadycuz 5y ago
Ahh so 17, is 1.17? I swear I googled this like 2 months ago and the first 2 or 3 links weren't helpful so I gave up. Thanks!
- shawnz 5y ago
  Effectively yes, but the "1.x" format is deprecated since Java 9 and not used anymore, whereas versions 5 through 8 used both notations. See https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/223#Dropping-the-initial-1-element-from-version-numbers https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/223#Dropping-the-initial-1-ele...
oaiey 5y ago
And now it is the other way around. C# burning through the versions to catch up the versions (and not so much the content). PS: had to edit, was really just a note about the numbers not the content of the versions!!!
- x0n 5y ago
  Catch up to what? The JDK 17 JEP list reads like a list of things that were added to dotnet years ago.
  - jsiepkes 5y ago
    Thats kind of a hyperbole. .net didn't add support for macOS on ARM64 years ago. .net also didn't implement 2D rendering on macOS via Metal. etc. As a matter of fact .net didn't even support any other platform then Windows until recently.
    - metaltyphoon 5y ago
      Also hyperbole, dotnet supported other platforms years ago via mono.
      - jsiepkes 5y ago
        I think I would be generous if I stated 10% of the .net applications ran on Mono instead of MS CLR without source modifications. I even doubt more then 60% of the .net applications ran on .net Core (needed for other platforms then Windows) without modifications. Meaning .net has nowhere near the "write once, run anywhere" support Java has.
  - oaiey 5y ago
    Just version numbers, not content :)
- DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
  C# has never had to play catch-up with Java, it's always been the other way around.
  - pulse7 5y ago
    Ohhh.... C# was invented as a response to Java... So it had to play catch-up with Java - at it's inception...
    - jsiepkes 5y ago
      Even worse: C# came as a response when Microsoft failed to apply their embrace, extend, extinguish tactic on Java like they did with Netscape[1]. In the end the case was settled out of court and MS agreed to pay more then 1 billion dollar to Sun. MS also agreed to license a whole slew of patents for use with .net. [1] https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/sun-sues-microsoft-for-1-billion-over-java https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/sun-sues-microsof...
nobleach 5y ago
It was a very Sun-like thing to do. Sun dropped the 2. after their 2.6 release. Solaris 7 was the next release... then 8.

deepsun 5y ago

I wish they would name it 2021, 2022 etc.

bcrosby95 5y ago
They have a 6 month release cadence.
- codetrotter 5y ago
  2021.0, 2021.5, 2022.0, … :^)
  - hocuspocus 5y ago
    They tried for a short while (I think Java 10 was supposed to be 18.3) but stuck to incrementing major versions after all.

rickette 5y ago

1.8 and 8 are the same thing. Java switched to full version numbers like 9, 10, 11, etc now 17 some time ago.

codetrotter 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history > J2SE 5.0 > […] > The release on September 30, 2004 was originally numbered 1.5, which is still used as the internal version number. The number was changed to "better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE". and > This version introduced a new versioning system for the Java language, although the old versioning system continued to be used for developer libraries: >> Both version numbers "1.5.0" and "5.0" are used to identify this release of the Java 2 Platform Standard Edition. Version "5.0" is the product version, while "1.5.0" is the developer version. The number "5.0" is used to better reflect the level of maturity, stability, scalability and security of the J2SE. >> — Version 1.5.0 or 5.0?[32] [32]: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5.0.html http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/version-5....

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