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Like the Deng Xiaoping quote goes "Some areas and some people can get rich first, lead and help other regions and people, and gradually achieve common prosperit

Like the Deng Xiaoping quote goes "Some areas and some people can get rich first, lead and help other regions and people, and gradually achieve common prosperity." wouldn't be surprised its probably a mistranslation of the real quote. But Lenin talks about using capitalism to increase the productive powers of a nation and use the generated surplus values to help the people get cheap healthcare, infrastructure and a better common prosperity. Instead of seeing the capitalist stash away in a bank account not being trickled down to general public.

colordrops 5y ago
The goal of capitalism was never to concentrate wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, regardless of the ideology of the nation.
- ulzeraj 5y ago
  That makes no sense. Capitalism has no goal. Capitalism is the market and the market are people. You might not like the results but saying it is alive and has a goal sound exactly like conspiracy theorists who believe in NWO and the Illuminati.
  - colordrops 5y ago
    What I meant was "the goal of regimes that implement capitalism was never to concentrate wealth". Also I was saying what the goal wasn't. Do you understand now?
    - ulzeraj 5y ago
      I'm sorry I've misread.
  - andrekandre 5y ago
    > Capitalism is the market and the market are people. markets can (and did) exist before capitalism https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042215/what-difference-between-capitalist-system-and-free-market-system.asp https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042215/what-differe...
ulzeraj 5y ago
Thats not Lenin's idea. Karl Marx wrote that communism cannot be achieved without capitalism. You can't jump from a potato farming economy into a communist utopia. If I'm not mistaken and I'm pretty sure if I am people will correct me, he actually praised capitalism for being a much more efficient economic system than what humanity had in feudalism and mercantilism. However he believed that capitalism has a hard cap where it starts to devour itself. He lived in a time when people where buying bonds from countries that did not exist.

colordrops 5y ago

The goal of capitalism was never to concentrate wealth in the hands of a tiny minority, regardless of the ideology of the nation.

ulzeraj 5y ago
That makes no sense. Capitalism has no goal. Capitalism is the market and the market are people. You might not like the results but saying it is alive and has a goal sound exactly like conspiracy theorists who believe in NWO and the Illuminati.
- colordrops 5y ago
  What I meant was "the goal of regimes that implement capitalism was never to concentrate wealth". Also I was saying what the goal wasn't. Do you understand now?
  - ulzeraj 5y ago
    I'm sorry I've misread.
- andrekandre 5y ago
  > Capitalism is the market and the market are people. markets can (and did) exist before capitalism https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042215/what-difference-between-capitalist-system-and-free-market-system.asp https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042215/what-differe...

ulzeraj 5y ago

Thats not Lenin's idea. Karl Marx wrote that communism cannot be achieved without capitalism. You can't jump from a potato farming economy into a communist utopia. If I'm not mistaken and I'm pretty sure if I am people will correct me, he actually praised capitalism for being a much more efficient economic system than what humanity had in feudalism and mercantilism. However he believed that capitalism has a hard cap where it starts to devour itself. He lived in a time when people where buying bonds from countries that did not exist.