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Indeed. In other CCP news, they forced a Colorado highschool to edit their website to say Taiwan is a province of China. The school complied, so that the kids c

by jeswin 5y ago

Indeed. In other CCP news, they forced a Colorado highschool to edit their website to say Taiwan is a province of China. The school complied, so that the kids could attend United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. [1] 1: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-makes-sure-everyone-writes-taiwans-name-just-soeven-a-colorado-high-school-11631304386 https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-makes-sure-everyone-write...

ConcernedCoder 5y ago
Question: why does china have the power to dictate who can attend (whatever) at the "United Nations" ?
- dgfitz 5y ago
  5th paragraph. > China sits on the U.N. Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations, which authorizes groups big and small to participate at U.N. functions. At its publicly held meetings, any representative can hold up an application. Chinese bureaucrats scour each group that comes before the committee, scrutinizing every nook and cranny of their websites for references to Taiwan, say researchers who’ve studied the committee. If groups don’t include Beijing’s preferred language, China asks the committee to request changes.
pphysch 5y ago
For some perspective, this is still nothing compared to what the government of Israel has recently achieved in manipulating the American education system [1]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Amawi_v._Pflugerville_Independent_School_District https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Amawi_v._Pfluger...
- toxik 5y ago
  What-aboutism at its finest.
  - pphysch 5y ago
    "Whataboutism" remains one of the most self-destructive inventions of Cold War propaganda. Dismissing context because it makes "your side" look hypocritical or undermines a narrative (in this case, "CCP is uniquely evil") is no way to understand geopolitics.
    - toxik 5y ago
      I, and HN it seems, disagree. Israel’s anti-BDS tactics provided little interesting context while moving the discussion to an unrelated topic.
      - pphysch 5y ago
        It is extremely relevant to provide context for what the baseline/expected behavior is when discussing a particular instance of it. Otherwise, false assumptions replace the facts: "US allies would never interfere with our domestic education system, only bad guys do that!".
- ketralnis 5y ago
  Two things can be bad
  - nix23 5y ago
    And three can be too, but it's not possible to talk about two at once.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  There is some good news though. Recently Abby Martin won her lawsuit. From your link: "Documentary filmmaker Abby Martin was invited to speak at an event at Georgia Southern University on February 28, 2020.[69] She was supposed to be paid $1,000 for her speech. She was asked to sign a pledge to agree not to boycott Israel which she refused to do and her speaking arrangement was subsequently cancelled. She therefore announced on January 10, 2020 that she had filed a free speech lawsuit against the State of Georgia and Georgia Southern University over its anti-BDS law. She was represented by CAIR Legal Defense Fund and the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.[70][71] On May 24, 2021, the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia ruled in Martin's favor, holding that Georgia Southern violated her First Amendment rights." From what I understand they are now trying to alter the law so that it works around this ruling. These laws appear to be easy to implement but once challenged they are shot down. I think more lawsuits need to occur in each state unfortunately. That way we have clear cut precedence.
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grapist420 5y ago
they have been doing this for a long time

by jeswin 5y ago

ConcernedCoder 5y ago

Question: why does china have the power to dictate who can attend (whatever) at the "United Nations" ?

dgfitz 5y ago
5th paragraph. > China sits on the U.N. Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations, which authorizes groups big and small to participate at U.N. functions. At its publicly held meetings, any representative can hold up an application. Chinese bureaucrats scour each group that comes before the committee, scrutinizing every nook and cranny of their websites for references to Taiwan, say researchers who’ve studied the committee. If groups don’t include Beijing’s preferred language, China asks the committee to request changes.

pphysch 5y ago

For some perspective, this is still nothing compared to what the government of Israel has recently achieved in manipulating the American education system [1]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Amawi_v._Pflugerville_Independent_School_District https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Amawi_v._Pfluger...

toxik 5y ago
What-aboutism at its finest.
- pphysch 5y ago
  "Whataboutism" remains one of the most self-destructive inventions of Cold War propaganda. Dismissing context because it makes "your side" look hypocritical or undermines a narrative (in this case, "CCP is uniquely evil") is no way to understand geopolitics.
  - toxik 5y ago
    I, and HN it seems, disagree. Israel’s anti-BDS tactics provided little interesting context while moving the discussion to an unrelated topic.
    - pphysch 5y ago
      It is extremely relevant to provide context for what the baseline/expected behavior is when discussing a particular instance of it. Otherwise, false assumptions replace the facts: "US allies would never interfere with our domestic education system, only bad guys do that!".
ketralnis 5y ago
Two things can be bad
- nix23 5y ago
  And three can be too, but it's not possible to talk about two at once.
nebula8804 5y ago
There is some good news though. Recently Abby Martin won her lawsuit. From your link: "Documentary filmmaker Abby Martin was invited to speak at an event at Georgia Southern University on February 28, 2020.[69] She was supposed to be paid $1,000 for her speech. She was asked to sign a pledge to agree not to boycott Israel which she refused to do and her speaking arrangement was subsequently cancelled. She therefore announced on January 10, 2020 that she had filed a free speech lawsuit against the State of Georgia and Georgia Southern University over its anti-BDS law. She was represented by CAIR Legal Defense Fund and the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.[70][71] On May 24, 2021, the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia ruled in Martin's favor, holding that Georgia Southern violated her First Amendment rights." From what I understand they are now trying to alter the law so that it works around this ruling. These laws appear to be easy to implement but once challenged they are shot down. I think more lawsuits need to occur in each state unfortunately. That way we have clear cut precedence.

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grapist420 5y ago

they have been doing this for a long time