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I'd be more interested in calculating bias based on what they DO or DON'T report entirely. It's one thing to report on something with bias, it is more telling t
by samuelizdat 5y ago
I'd be more interested in calculating bias based on what they DO or DON'T report entirely. It's one thing to report on something with bias, it is more telling to note what they selectively ignore.
- flavius29663 5y agoOr report by saying only half the truth, without showing the other side's story at all. It makes it so much easier to adapt the language to sound neutral and educated. I think this is a big part of why the US is so divided right now, you get mostly half truths and no coherent view from the other side that it makes you think "the others" are completely insane.
- hwers 5y agoIt would be challenging to define "articles that a news organization should cover but isn't" though. Like there's trillions of things that happen every day, where's the lower bound on "news worthy" and how do you not bias that lower bound to ignore things that some other party would consider significant?
- dahfizz 5y agoYou could do it in relation to other news outlets. That won't give you absolute bias, but you could say something like "CNN is much less likely to report about X topics than Fox." It would be interesting as well to add in other factors - i.e. how often do certain outlets report about the wars in the middle east when the president is republican vs democrat?
- sodality2 5y agoHow often certain outlets report about the wars in the middle east fluctuates massively on the actual wars, though.
- throwaway894345 5y agoI would go farther and make it relative to clusters of people on, say, Twitter. If an outlet is concerned with a lot of things that the progressive cluster of Twitter users is talking about (more so than many other outlets), that’s a strong indicator that the media outlet (and other outlets in its media cluster) is also progressive.
- hwers 5y agoI'll just throw out a comment (even though this is mostly a thought experiment) that doing any type of twitter analysis is either nearly impossible (in the scraping case) or prohibitively expensive (e.g. using their API). They've really shut off access to third parties in the last few years. (Just thought I'd mention it since the parent post continues this pre-2015-ish idea that still floats around that using twitter for projects could be a thing.)
- throwaway894345 5y agoFair enough, yes, Twitter was intended to be an example of a mine-able medium where people express political opinions, but to your point mining Twitter data may be more difficult than I imagined.
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- dqpb 5y agoReally? You just take the set of stories across N news outlets and then compare to the set of stories in each one outlet.
- hwers 5y agoSure. It's just that if the goal really is to identify which stories aren't covered by news then if you only look at what news covers to determine that, you'll miss some of the bigger 'coordinated silences'. Weinstein's comment about how weird it is that no journalist ever brings up some really obvious questions about Epstein comes to mind. Or how little press there was about his brothers telomere story. From one perspective the reason for the silence is because it's not worth covering by the news, but from another perspective it's biased silence.
- AlbertCory 5y agoYes. There are research dollars for studies to "use AI to do a meaningless study on topics that are done better in other ways." Hence professors obligingly churn them out and journalists report them.
- 908B64B197 5y agoWhat's even funnier is, once you speak two languages, to compare coverage of the same news on the same network in two different languages (so aimed at different demographics).