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I've only heard good things about mullvad and their Wireguard-based VPN solution (...so long as random reddit comments and forum posts are to be trusted). I wo

I've only heard good things about mullvad and their Wireguard-based VPN solution (...so long as random reddit comments and forum posts are to be trusted). I wonder what 5/9/14 eyes actually do with the intercepted data? Isn't mere processing of the said data, a gargantuan task? Is this where Palantir comes to play or is it more like of a `cat atlantic_pipeline | grep bomb` thing?

encryptluks2 5y ago
It is really awesome. I was looking for a solution that allowed me to use the native Wireguard implementation without needing a third-party proprietary client. Mullvad was it and port forwarding was just one additional benefit. Vopono works great for my use cases, although I have a hard time sending everything through a VPN because pretty much every VPN provider is going to put you into captcha hell or some services straight up block you when you're behind a VPN.
- kaino128 5y ago
  Yes, it’s great to be able to just use pure WireGuard - I’m allergic to the idea of VPN providers expecting you to run their proprietary app. WireGuard has a great iOS app these days too.
mschuster91 5y ago
> or is it more like of a `cat atlantic_pipeline | grep bomb` thing For what us ordinary people know, there are "selectors", something similar in purpose to regular expressions, that can filter out data out of the streams (not just raw IP communications, but also phone call metadata and PIR datasets from airlines) for storage and human inspection. Think of stuff like the phone numbers, names or email addresses of known or suspected "terrorists", drug dealers, organized criminals, or whomever else ends up on one of the flag lists.
- bbarnett 5y ago
  It also can be used once shortlists are determined. EG, we suspect person 1. Now, do a deep search on 1, find associates, do deep search one those.
  - colejohnson66 5y ago
    And it gets even “better”: the “association” goes three levels deep. Basically, your friends’ friends’ friends. So if Alice knows Bob, Bob also knows Charlie, and Charlie also knows Dave, the mere suspicion against Alice is enough to sweep Dave into the dragnet. https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/28/nsa-files-decoded-hops https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/28/ns...
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encryptluks2 5y ago

It is really awesome. I was looking for a solution that allowed me to use the native Wireguard implementation without needing a third-party proprietary client. Mullvad was it and port forwarding was just one additional benefit. Vopono works great for my use cases, although I have a hard time sending everything through a VPN because pretty much every VPN provider is going to put you into captcha hell or some services straight up block you when you're behind a VPN.

kaino128 5y ago
Yes, it’s great to be able to just use pure WireGuard - I’m allergic to the idea of VPN providers expecting you to run their proprietary app. WireGuard has a great iOS app these days too.

mschuster91 5y ago

> or is it more like of a `cat atlantic_pipeline | grep bomb` thing For what us ordinary people know, there are "selectors", something similar in purpose to regular expressions, that can filter out data out of the streams (not just raw IP communications, but also phone call metadata and PIR datasets from airlines) for storage and human inspection. Think of stuff like the phone numbers, names or email addresses of known or suspected "terrorists", drug dealers, organized criminals, or whomever else ends up on one of the flag lists.

bbarnett 5y ago
It also can be used once shortlists are determined. EG, we suspect person 1. Now, do a deep search on 1, find associates, do deep search one those.
- colejohnson66 5y ago
  And it gets even “better”: the “association” goes three levels deep. Basically, your friends’ friends’ friends. So if Alice knows Bob, Bob also knows Charlie, and Charlie also knows Dave, the mere suspicion against Alice is enough to sweep Dave into the dragnet. https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/28/nsa-files-decoded-hops https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/28/ns...
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