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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo... in Finland there is a long te

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo... in Finland there is a long term solution for the waste. The operations are expected to start in 2023. The rest of what you say is are regulatory issue. Similarly coal burning externalities are paid not by the generating companies but the rest of the society. Not that I'm suggesting coal and nuclear to be the only options.

pyrale 5y ago
There is also one scheduled in france https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cig%C3%A9o https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cig%C3%A9o
- bayesian_horse 5y ago
  The solution is always just around the corner. I'd like to wait for it to actually work before accumulating ever more of the stuff.
  - pyrale 5y ago
    I mean, what is there that could fail? It's basically a hole in the ground, That's it. I know Germany prefers to strip-mine their coal these days, but digging tunnels several kilometers deep is a skill that's been mastered for more than a century.
    - bayesian_horse 5y ago
      Earthquakes, ground water, flooding, other geological activity. This stuff will be radioactive for longer than Humans will remember it is there. These discussions are way more complicated than you apparently think, and they are both scientific and political. Nobody wants this stuff in their backyard, even a few kilometres underground. And Germany is relatively densely populated, making "nobody's backyard" a tight constraint...
  - ryathal 5y ago
    wait for what to actually work? a hole or closed mine? There's barely enough nuclear waste globally to justify storing it in a single place. It's still a valuable resource so just sealing it in a hole seems like a bad move at the moment anyway. your complaint is similar to one about the lack of airports in pre WWI Europe.
    - bayesian_horse 5y ago
      I meant the recycling plans. Some countries may or may not have found storage options. But it is more complicated for most countries than you appear to think.

pyrale 5y ago

There is also one scheduled in france https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cig%C3%A9o https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cig%C3%A9o

bayesian_horse 5y ago
The solution is always just around the corner. I'd like to wait for it to actually work before accumulating ever more of the stuff.
- pyrale 5y ago
  I mean, what is there that could fail? It's basically a hole in the ground, That's it. I know Germany prefers to strip-mine their coal these days, but digging tunnels several kilometers deep is a skill that's been mastered for more than a century.
  - bayesian_horse 5y ago
    Earthquakes, ground water, flooding, other geological activity. This stuff will be radioactive for longer than Humans will remember it is there. These discussions are way more complicated than you apparently think, and they are both scientific and political. Nobody wants this stuff in their backyard, even a few kilometres underground. And Germany is relatively densely populated, making "nobody's backyard" a tight constraint...
- ryathal 5y ago
  wait for what to actually work? a hole or closed mine? There's barely enough nuclear waste globally to justify storing it in a single place. It's still a valuable resource so just sealing it in a hole seems like a bad move at the moment anyway. your complaint is similar to one about the lack of airports in pre WWI Europe.
  - bayesian_horse 5y ago
    I meant the recycling plans. Some countries may or may not have found storage options. But it is more complicated for most countries than you appear to think.