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Maybe this is just clickbait? Jekyll is in a fine state for an extremely mature project. It would be extremely souring to me if Jekyll decided to add webpack a

Maybe this is just clickbait? Jekyll is in a fine state for an extremely mature project. It would be extremely souring to me if Jekyll decided to add webpack and other javascript dependencies with a newer version. One of the things I like about Jekyll is that it's a STATIC site generator that doesn't try to do everything. Some sites I want to be dead simple, and that's what you get with Jekyll. If I want more complexity I'd go with a more complex generator like Hugo or Gatsby.

woodruffw 5y ago
> Jekyll is in a fine state for an extremely mature project. That's my impression as well, as an outsider. A recurring nightmare of mine as a maintainer is that I'll wake up one day and read someone's blog proclaiming the death of one of my projects, when all I've done is stopped adding new features to it. Especially so when it's someone who's made a living for themselves as a downstream user. And I'm in the same boat as you: I've had a Jekyll-based blog, without incident, for a little bit under a decade now. It's only gotten faster and easier to use over time, which is more than I even asked for.
- jaredcwhite 5y ago
  I never declared the death of the project. Frank, the remaining release maintainer of Jekyll after Parker Moore left, declared it. Read the article. :)
  - Lammy 5y ago
    Right, you're just taking private words from someone who "refrain[ed] from making any public statement", publicizing them, and trying to capitalize on it four entire days after his obituary was published now that he's not around to speak for himself. Toootally different.
- donatj 5y ago
  Agreed! I personally maintain a couple projects I consider feature complete. Changes are very rare other than occasional bug fixes or breaking ecosystem changes, but that doesn't mean the code is bad. The code is a hammer, you don't need the newest shiniest hammer. You just need the hammer that hits nails.
jaredcwhite 5y ago
Is Hugo built with Ruby? Is Gatsby? Why are we saying that someone can only use the biggest Ruby-based SSG if they want something incredibly simple that will never change, otherwise they need to look somewhere else. Rails has never had that limited value prop for example.
- DocTomoe 5y ago
  Isn't that asking the wrong question? If I want an SSG, I want an engine that takes a relatively simplistic text markup format, like Markdown or Org, and create a series of HTML documents from it. Why would the technology that does the gruntwork matter to me as an user? Also, with Jekyll's plugin structure, what is an example of a functionality that cannot be achieved in Jekyll, but can in another non-Ruby SSG?

woodruffw 5y ago

> Jekyll is in a fine state for an extremely mature project. That's my impression as well, as an outsider. A recurring nightmare of mine as a maintainer is that I'll wake up one day and read someone's blog proclaiming the death of one of my projects, when all I've done is stopped adding new features to it. Especially so when it's someone who's made a living for themselves as a downstream user. And I'm in the same boat as you: I've had a Jekyll-based blog, without incident, for a little bit under a decade now. It's only gotten faster and easier to use over time, which is more than I even asked for.

jaredcwhite 5y ago
I never declared the death of the project. Frank, the remaining release maintainer of Jekyll after Parker Moore left, declared it. Read the article. :)
- Lammy 5y ago
  Right, you're just taking private words from someone who "refrain[ed] from making any public statement", publicizing them, and trying to capitalize on it four entire days after his obituary was published now that he's not around to speak for himself. Toootally different.
donatj 5y ago
Agreed! I personally maintain a couple projects I consider feature complete. Changes are very rare other than occasional bug fixes or breaking ecosystem changes, but that doesn't mean the code is bad. The code is a hammer, you don't need the newest shiniest hammer. You just need the hammer that hits nails.

jaredcwhite 5y ago

Is Hugo built with Ruby? Is Gatsby? Why are we saying that someone can only use the biggest Ruby-based SSG if they want something incredibly simple that will never change, otherwise they need to look somewhere else. Rails has never had that limited value prop for example.

DocTomoe 5y ago
Isn't that asking the wrong question? If I want an SSG, I want an engine that takes a relatively simplistic text markup format, like Markdown or Org, and create a series of HTML documents from it. Why would the technology that does the gruntwork matter to me as an user? Also, with Jekyll's plugin structure, what is an example of a functionality that cannot be achieved in Jekyll, but can in another non-Ruby SSG?