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and staff shortages supposedly Brexit induced. in 2019 I met a young eastern European hotel worker who proudly showed me his British passport while telling me

and staff shortages supposedly Brexit induced. in 2019 I met a young eastern European hotel worker who proudly showed me his British passport while telling me how he'd merely recorded six years of entry and exit documents for obtaining nationality despite having spent almost all his adult life in his home country in prison. I discovered this is tip of the iceberg for the failure of visa application and immigration systems in the UK, and I am thinking that post covid rehiring processes of laid off and furloughed staff is exposing significant numbers of unemployables. edit : because obtaining furlough funds and other assistance is only possible in relation to individuals who have recourse to public funds and new UK nationals don't have automatic recourse to public funds and this will trigger a new hiring process and background check, as I understand it.

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sofixa 5y ago
I find that hard to believe. In France, you need to show tax returns, a diploma, a work certificate from your employer, etc. to prove you've been in the country and contributing to it somehow. Either the UK bureaucracy is that much worse than the French one, or something smells.
mmarq 5y ago
You can apply for naturalisation one year after you are granted indefinite leave to remain. If they had a passport in 2019, this person must have applied for ILR before the EU Settlement Scheme, which started in 2019. So in order to prove they lived in the UK, they must have sent kilograms of payslips (2-3 per year), reference letters, various proofs of address (2-3 per year) and a list of all travels abroad (to prove you haven’t been outside of the UK for more that 6 months), which you can’t do if you are in prison abroad. It took me 2-3 weeks to collect all the documentation, and I never changed address and I only worked for blue chip companies. My partner could not apply for ILR before the settlement scheme because half the companies she worked for went out of business and couldn’t provide reference letters. He may have been very lucky with his case worker, but this is definitely not the “tip of the iceberg” of anything. You don’t need to be a British citizen to claim benefits or furlough money or public funds. An ILR or having worked for X months should suffice (assuming you can live in the UK on 150£ per week).

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sofixa 5y ago

I find that hard to believe. In France, you need to show tax returns, a diploma, a work certificate from your employer, etc. to prove you've been in the country and contributing to it somehow. Either the UK bureaucracy is that much worse than the French one, or something smells.

mmarq 5y ago

You can apply for naturalisation one year after you are granted indefinite leave to remain. If they had a passport in 2019, this person must have applied for ILR before the EU Settlement Scheme, which started in 2019. So in order to prove they lived in the UK, they must have sent kilograms of payslips (2-3 per year), reference letters, various proofs of address (2-3 per year) and a list of all travels abroad (to prove you haven’t been outside of the UK for more that 6 months), which you can’t do if you are in prison abroad. It took me 2-3 weeks to collect all the documentation, and I never changed address and I only worked for blue chip companies. My partner could not apply for ILR before the settlement scheme because half the companies she worked for went out of business and couldn’t provide reference letters. He may have been very lucky with his case worker, but this is definitely not the “tip of the iceberg” of anything. You don’t need to be a British citizen to claim benefits or furlough money or public funds. An ILR or having worked for X months should suffice (assuming you can live in the UK on 150£ per week).