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> Here’s what triggered this: The ceremony includes bits of a recording (of tenor John McCormack singing “Funiculi, Funicula”) made in the year 1914. The Corpor

> Here’s what triggered this: The ceremony includes bits of a recording (of tenor John McCormack singing “Funiculi, Funicula”) made in the year 1914. The Corporate Takedown > YouTube’s takedown algorithm claims that the following corporations all own the copyright to that audio recording that was MADE IN THE YEAR 1914: “SME, INgrooves (on behalf of Emerald); Wise Music Group, BMG Rights Management (US), LLC, UMPG Publishing, PEDL, Kobalt Music Publishing, Warner Chappell, Sony ATV Publishing, and 1 Music Rights Societies” So what's going on here? Did some record company reissue the song later on CD, so YouTube is treating it like it was released at a later date than it was? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_in_the_United_St...: > All works first published or released before January 1, 1926, have lost their copyright protection, effective January 1, 2021. Google probably should compile a list of public domain recordings to act as a blacklist for YouTube copyright claims. Maybe that should even be legal a requirement for such automatic enforcement systems. If they partner with some library or national archive, such a project could help with media preservation efforts.

jcranmer 5y ago
> All works first published or released before January 1, 1926, have lost their copyright protection, effective January 1, 2021. That's not the entire story. Sound recordings are a separate category, and pre-1923 sound recordings have a special clause that means they don't enter public domain until 2022. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1401 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1401
- gundmc 5y ago
  So this is WAI per current copyright laws?
  - cybersol 5y ago
    For now, at least until they extend it another 100 years.
    - tablespoon 5y ago
      > For now, at least until they extend it another 100 years. I don't think there's the political will to keep doing that. https://creativecommons.org/2018/01/15/copyright-term-extension-finally-done/ https://creativecommons.org/2018/01/15/copyright-term-extens...
  - jcranmer 5y ago
    I strongly suspect that Youtube makes no attempt to assess whether or not the claimed copyright is in fact in the public domain, so I wouldn't quite call it "working as intended." But, for the next few months, it's not wrong.
type0 5y ago
> Google probably should compile a list of public domain recordings to act as a blacklist for YouTube copyright claims. Should or would. Why would they be interested in that, the current situation brings them money and that's all they seem to care about.

jcranmer 5y ago

> All works first published or released before January 1, 1926, have lost their copyright protection, effective January 1, 2021. That's not the entire story. Sound recordings are a separate category, and pre-1923 sound recordings have a special clause that means they don't enter public domain until 2022. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1401 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1401

gundmc 5y ago
So this is WAI per current copyright laws?
- cybersol 5y ago
  For now, at least until they extend it another 100 years.
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > For now, at least until they extend it another 100 years. I don't think there's the political will to keep doing that. https://creativecommons.org/2018/01/15/copyright-term-extension-finally-done/ https://creativecommons.org/2018/01/15/copyright-term-extens...
- jcranmer 5y ago
  I strongly suspect that Youtube makes no attempt to assess whether or not the claimed copyright is in fact in the public domain, so I wouldn't quite call it "working as intended." But, for the next few months, it's not wrong.

type0 5y ago

> Google probably should compile a list of public domain recordings to act as a blacklist for YouTube copyright claims. Should or would. Why would they be interested in that, the current situation brings them money and that's all they seem to care about.