4 ms·

Yes but thanks to Andrew Jackson most reservations are in the flyover states in the middle of nowhere far away from the big metro areas. So I'm not sure if it w

Yes but thanks to Andrew Jackson most reservations are in the flyover states in the middle of nowhere far away from the big metro areas. So I'm not sure if it will matter much. I hazard a guess that Tesla's are sold on the East and West coast.

perl4ever 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnecock_Reservation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnecock_Reservation I think there are multiple reservations in San Diego County. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_Indian_Reservation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_Indian_Reservation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincon_Band_of_Luise%C3%B1o_Indians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincon_Band_of_Luise%C3%B1o_In... There are also reservations in Riverside Country - isn't that close to LA? e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_Caliente_Band_of_Cahuilla_Indians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_Caliente_Band_of_Cahuilla...
- pengaru 5y ago
  There's a small res casino practically inside Joshua Tree National Park at 29 Palms.
  - JaggedJax 5y ago
    With a Tesla Supercharger at it!
stumpedonalog 5y ago
Hmm… the Salt River reservation is nearly downtown Phoenix. It covers like a fourth of the metro area.
ethagknight 5y ago
This is wrong, reservations or tribals lands are sometimes within the greater MSA of some cities or otherwise adjacent to populous areas, (Tulsa is the most prominent example, Kansas City, south Florida Miami area, Mobile AL, Charlotte NC to list a few). In the context of the dealership laws, these are significant exceptions. Of the 10 states with outright bans on manufacturer sales, all but Texas and West Virginia have tribal lands that theoretically could be used as a helpful loophole to this protectionism. Maybe not always Tesla’s the first choice of location, but a 50 mi drive beats a 300 mile drive, and sufficient to break the teeth of these laws. Please dont be dismissive of “flyover states.” The lack of dealerships and service centers certainly impairs the sales process, and then California’s extremely generous (and unnecessary?) EV incentive gives many people from other states an incentive jump through some hoops and papering to purchase and title their vehicle there.
- alasdair_ 5y ago
  > Please dont be dismissive of “flyover states.” Especially since the Wright brothers are from a flyover state. No one would be "flying over" without them.
- rascul 5y ago
  Tulsa may not be the best example of tribal lands being near a major city, as it looks like a Supreme Court case last year found that much of Oklahoma (including Tulsa) is supposed to actually be tribal lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGirt_v._Oklahoma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGirt_v._Oklahoma
  - ethagknight 5y ago
    Yep it’s a fascinating case of “well, what happens now?” and thanks for linking. But I think it only supports my primary point that some cities are intermingled with tribal lands and that these lands aren’t “just in the middle of nowhere.”

perl4ever 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnecock_Reservation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnecock_Reservation I think there are multiple reservations in San Diego County. e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_Indian_Reservation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_Indian_Reservation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincon_Band_of_Luise%C3%B1o_Indians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincon_Band_of_Luise%C3%B1o_In... There are also reservations in Riverside Country - isn't that close to LA? e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_Caliente_Band_of_Cahuilla_Indians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_Caliente_Band_of_Cahuilla...

pengaru 5y ago
There's a small res casino practically inside Joshua Tree National Park at 29 Palms.
- JaggedJax 5y ago
  With a Tesla Supercharger at it!

stumpedonalog 5y ago

Hmm… the Salt River reservation is nearly downtown Phoenix. It covers like a fourth of the metro area.

ethagknight 5y ago

This is wrong, reservations or tribals lands are sometimes within the greater MSA of some cities or otherwise adjacent to populous areas, (Tulsa is the most prominent example, Kansas City, south Florida Miami area, Mobile AL, Charlotte NC to list a few). In the context of the dealership laws, these are significant exceptions. Of the 10 states with outright bans on manufacturer sales, all but Texas and West Virginia have tribal lands that theoretically could be used as a helpful loophole to this protectionism. Maybe not always Tesla’s the first choice of location, but a 50 mi drive beats a 300 mile drive, and sufficient to break the teeth of these laws. Please dont be dismissive of “flyover states.” The lack of dealerships and service centers certainly impairs the sales process, and then California’s extremely generous (and unnecessary?) EV incentive gives many people from other states an incentive jump through some hoops and papering to purchase and title their vehicle there.

alasdair_ 5y ago
> Please dont be dismissive of “flyover states.” Especially since the Wright brothers are from a flyover state. No one would be "flying over" without them.
rascul 5y ago
Tulsa may not be the best example of tribal lands being near a major city, as it looks like a Supreme Court case last year found that much of Oklahoma (including Tulsa) is supposed to actually be tribal lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGirt_v._Oklahoma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGirt_v._Oklahoma
- ethagknight 5y ago
  Yep it’s a fascinating case of “well, what happens now?” and thanks for linking. But I think it only supports my primary point that some cities are intermingled with tribal lands and that these lands aren’t “just in the middle of nowhere.”