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Man that is sort of mind blowing. I would have thought there was often basic maintenance for .. something. Shouldn't you have rotated your tires a few times at

Man that is sort of mind blowing. I would have thought there was often basic maintenance for .. something. Shouldn't you have rotated your tires a few times at least?

rzzzt 5y ago
If my calculations are correct, the tires have rotated approx. 5.45 million times.
- throwanem 5y ago
  "Rotating" as in mounting them on different corners of the car so that they wear evenly, I believe is what's meant here.
zdragnar 5y ago
25k miles in two years is... not a lot of driving, at all. Even new ICE engines wouldn't need anything other than their oil changed. A tire rotation would probably be a good idea, though.
- r00fus 5y ago
  You must be mistaken. Most leases are for under 10k a year. 12.5k a year will a] cost you significantly more on a lease (you won't qualify for the cheapo $99/mo leases) and b] will impact your insurance. 25k over 2 years is over-average at least. I did 15k/year but I drove 75mi/day back then (pre-COVID). New ICE cars are lower maintenance, for sure. But they're nowhere near 0-maintenance like an EV. I've spent like $250 on maintenance activities on my EV over 4 years. Not having to visit a dirty gas station or repair shop (the than tires) is quite liberating.
  - meetups323 5y ago
    Even old ICE cars can do 25k miles no problem. I've taken my '04 4Runner from 170k to 200k over the past 2 years, only major servicing was the timing belt replacement (scheduled for every 90k miles, ~$2k). I had to replace the O2 sensor too, but that was about $50 IIRC, and it took me 15 minutes in my driveway after O'Reilly diagnosed it for free using OBD2. No $3k/yr "Toolbox" sub required.
  - zdragnar 5y ago
    A 10k lease lets you drive upwards of 200 miles a week. That is doable if you have a short commute and / or never use it for day trips or vacations. Live outside of a small bubble, and it adds up pretty quick... then again, leases aren't very popular around here. Certainly an EV will have less maintenance, but even ICE cars have practically zero maintenance outside of the occasional 15 minutes at a quick lube oil change place before they hit 50k miles. Not having to fill the truck up with gas would be nice, if it could last a day logging in the forest on a single charge.
- maccard 5y ago
  It's almost double the average distance driven in the UK [0]. [0] https://www.thinkmoney.co.uk/blog/what-is-the-average-miles-driven-per-year-in-the-uk/ https://www.thinkmoney.co.uk/blog/what-is-the-average-miles-...
- jandrese 5y ago
  Found the HN user that lives in a flyover state. :) Average yearly mileage is greatly affected by where you live. Someone who lives in a rural area is almost guaranteed to put far more miles on a vehicle than a person who lives in the city. It's the difference between a 15 mile trip to the nearest grocery store and a 45 minute commute on open roads to taking the bus to work and only using the car on some weekends.
kampsduac 5y ago
When having Discount Tire repair a nail in my 1 year old Model Y tire, I asked if I should get them rotated. They measured each tire tread and said they are wearing very even, and suggested I wait longer to get them rotated. Likely something a dealership wouldn't have recommended during an oil change of a vehicle purchased from them ;-) I do need to replace our cabin air filter. Likely sooner than typical, since we've driven on a number of very, very dirty roads on camping trips. No other serious maintenance in sight! https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance
lallysingh 5y ago
Also brake wear is lower because of regenerate braking.
- asdff 5y ago
  You can lower break wear if you drive a manual ice car too. On my stick shift for a freeway off ramp I only hit the brakes when going from 5mph to a complete stop at the end, the rest of the time I smoothly downshift and let the engine brake the car. There is just no chance a tesla that weighs twice as much as my manual little honda is wearing the brake pads less.
  - jliptzin 5y ago
    I routinely go entire drives without touching the brakes at all. Have you ever test driven a Tesla before?

Man that is sort of mind blowing. I would have thought there was often basic maintenance for .. something. Shouldn't you have rotated your tires a few times at least?

rzzzt 5y ago

If my calculations are correct, the tires have rotated approx. 5.45 million times.

throwanem 5y ago
"Rotating" as in mounting them on different corners of the car so that they wear evenly, I believe is what's meant here.

zdragnar 5y ago

25k miles in two years is... not a lot of driving, at all. Even new ICE engines wouldn't need anything other than their oil changed. A tire rotation would probably be a good idea, though.

r00fus 5y ago
You must be mistaken. Most leases are for under 10k a year. 12.5k a year will a] cost you significantly more on a lease (you won't qualify for the cheapo $99/mo leases) and b] will impact your insurance. 25k over 2 years is over-average at least. I did 15k/year but I drove 75mi/day back then (pre-COVID). New ICE cars are lower maintenance, for sure. But they're nowhere near 0-maintenance like an EV. I've spent like $250 on maintenance activities on my EV over 4 years. Not having to visit a dirty gas station or repair shop (the than tires) is quite liberating.
- meetups323 5y ago
  Even old ICE cars can do 25k miles no problem. I've taken my '04 4Runner from 170k to 200k over the past 2 years, only major servicing was the timing belt replacement (scheduled for every 90k miles, ~$2k). I had to replace the O2 sensor too, but that was about $50 IIRC, and it took me 15 minutes in my driveway after O'Reilly diagnosed it for free using OBD2. No $3k/yr "Toolbox" sub required.
- zdragnar 5y ago
  A 10k lease lets you drive upwards of 200 miles a week. That is doable if you have a short commute and / or never use it for day trips or vacations. Live outside of a small bubble, and it adds up pretty quick... then again, leases aren't very popular around here. Certainly an EV will have less maintenance, but even ICE cars have practically zero maintenance outside of the occasional 15 minutes at a quick lube oil change place before they hit 50k miles. Not having to fill the truck up with gas would be nice, if it could last a day logging in the forest on a single charge.
maccard 5y ago
It's almost double the average distance driven in the UK [0]. [0] https://www.thinkmoney.co.uk/blog/what-is-the-average-miles-driven-per-year-in-the-uk/ https://www.thinkmoney.co.uk/blog/what-is-the-average-miles-...
jandrese 5y ago
Found the HN user that lives in a flyover state. :) Average yearly mileage is greatly affected by where you live. Someone who lives in a rural area is almost guaranteed to put far more miles on a vehicle than a person who lives in the city. It's the difference between a 15 mile trip to the nearest grocery store and a 45 minute commute on open roads to taking the bus to work and only using the car on some weekends.

kampsduac 5y ago

When having Discount Tire repair a nail in my 1 year old Model Y tire, I asked if I should get them rotated. They measured each tire tread and said they are wearing very even, and suggested I wait longer to get them rotated. Likely something a dealership wouldn't have recommended during an oil change of a vehicle purchased from them ;-) I do need to replace our cabin air filter. Likely sooner than typical, since we've driven on a number of very, very dirty roads on camping trips. No other serious maintenance in sight! https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance https://www.tesla.com/support/car-maintenance

lallysingh 5y ago

Also brake wear is lower because of regenerate braking.

asdff 5y ago
You can lower break wear if you drive a manual ice car too. On my stick shift for a freeway off ramp I only hit the brakes when going from 5mph to a complete stop at the end, the rest of the time I smoothly downshift and let the engine brake the car. There is just no chance a tesla that weighs twice as much as my manual little honda is wearing the brake pads less.
- jliptzin 5y ago
  I routinely go entire drives without touching the brakes at all. Have you ever test driven a Tesla before?