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First off, I want to make the disclaimer that this project is very much an MVP and the landing page/front end is quite ugly. I'm sharing tingy - this is a serv

by axg11 5y ago

First off, I want to make the disclaimer that this project is very much an MVP and the landing page/front end is quite ugly. I'm sharing tingy - this is a service that allows you to upload a video and query it using a text description. For each upload, you can make two queries and they can be any text that you wish (in English). Here's an example: You have 4 hours worth of security footage. During those 4 hours you know that someone stole a bike. You could query the video for "person riding bike". I'm looking for some test users - please reach out here if you would like to trial tingy. I would be happy to set you up with a free account.

gotostatement 5y ago
I could see that there are some users who would want an ongoing subscription, such as a security office who looked through security videos on a regular basis to investigate thefts. But I have to think that in a lot of cases there will be people who just want to search through a video or two on a one-time basis - why not a per-video, non-subscription pricing option?
- axg11 5y ago
  Interesting point, any idea at what level you would price this?
  - gotostatement 5y ago
    I cant speak to the economics on your side, but from a consumer point of view, the main issue I'm having is: how do I know this thing will even work? I don't want to shell out $10 and wait for processing time only to find out it doesn't even work Maybe one way is to let users upload it for free, interactively search the first 10s for free, and then require payment to look through the rest of the video. If I felt confident that it was going to work, and I had a real reason to search through the video, I would probably pay between $1 and $5, depending on the length of the video. Much more than that and I'd rather just scrub through it myself. I guess the length of the video is roughly proportional to how much I'm willing to pay to not have to scrub through it myself. The other thing is that it's much easier to scrub through and find an image, rather than voice. If I want to find a bike, I can just scrub through at 10x and look for bikes, a bike isn't going to just appear in a single frame and disappear in the blink of an eye. If it also searched voice, it would be worth even more.
grepfru_it 5y ago
Very interesting. I do this with my security cameras right now but mainly to find out who left poop in front of my house or who left the trash can behind my garage door. The second use case is much easier than the first since a lot of dogs walk past my house, a lot of dogs poop in front of my house, but not a lot of dogs walk by that leave poop behind (or sometimes the poop is out of view). Interesting idea nonetheless
- axg11 5y ago
  In this example you could query for "poop" and then look at the resulting plot for a sustained period of time with high poop probability? :)
  - grepfru_it 5y ago
    how do you distinguish between poop and mud? :) its great in theory but real world creates harder challenges. the real answer is to keep track of all the dogs that pass by and then compare the before/after scenes for differences. i'm doing this with my garage door camera for detecting water (for a completely different problem)
    - axg11 5y ago
      Perhaps analyze for the combination of dogs + poop? The dog probability will be transient/a spike, whereas the poop probability will be constant (after appearance of the dog).

by axg11 5y ago

gotostatement 5y ago

I could see that there are some users who would want an ongoing subscription, such as a security office who looked through security videos on a regular basis to investigate thefts. But I have to think that in a lot of cases there will be people who just want to search through a video or two on a one-time basis - why not a per-video, non-subscription pricing option?

axg11 5y ago
Interesting point, any idea at what level you would price this?
- gotostatement 5y ago
  I cant speak to the economics on your side, but from a consumer point of view, the main issue I'm having is: how do I know this thing will even work? I don't want to shell out $10 and wait for processing time only to find out it doesn't even work Maybe one way is to let users upload it for free, interactively search the first 10s for free, and then require payment to look through the rest of the video. If I felt confident that it was going to work, and I had a real reason to search through the video, I would probably pay between $1 and $5, depending on the length of the video. Much more than that and I'd rather just scrub through it myself. I guess the length of the video is roughly proportional to how much I'm willing to pay to not have to scrub through it myself. The other thing is that it's much easier to scrub through and find an image, rather than voice. If I want to find a bike, I can just scrub through at 10x and look for bikes, a bike isn't going to just appear in a single frame and disappear in the blink of an eye. If it also searched voice, it would be worth even more.

grepfru_it 5y ago

Very interesting. I do this with my security cameras right now but mainly to find out who left poop in front of my house or who left the trash can behind my garage door. The second use case is much easier than the first since a lot of dogs walk past my house, a lot of dogs poop in front of my house, but not a lot of dogs walk by that leave poop behind (or sometimes the poop is out of view). Interesting idea nonetheless

axg11 5y ago
In this example you could query for "poop" and then look at the resulting plot for a sustained period of time with high poop probability? :)
- grepfru_it 5y ago
  how do you distinguish between poop and mud? :) its great in theory but real world creates harder challenges. the real answer is to keep track of all the dogs that pass by and then compare the before/after scenes for differences. i'm doing this with my garage door camera for detecting water (for a completely different problem)
  - axg11 5y ago
    Perhaps analyze for the combination of dogs + poop? The dog probability will be transient/a spike, whereas the poop probability will be constant (after appearance of the dog).