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>Will nobody rid us of a corrupt collusion between government and corporation? We could by changing who we vote for.

by p_j_w 5y ago

lnxg33k1 5y ago
Yeah, considering the amount of money needed to be known and collect votes i guess it's either the government starting to fund campaigns and disallowing corporate donation or i see it as very hard to change that
oehpr 5y ago
I'm sure if party A doesn't fix it, party B will totally fix it! Definitely. Oh, but maybe you're right, if we all just collectively decided for party C, then things would really work. Huh, I guess party C can't get in because of FPTP, well we can change that! No big deal! Let's use a new voting system! ~ Signed: A person who lives in a province that has had 3 failed voting referendums.
- myohmy 5y ago
  If you're in BC (probably) then you need to look a little further back. The reason we have the BC Liberals (aka Conservatives) is because the NDP (socdems) won on FPTP and the Libs and Cons merged. Voting 3rd party is why we are the only province in Canada with a vaccine passport. I fully expect the Greens to win eventually. BCers will vote their conscience, everybody else be damned.
inetknght 5y ago
Changing votes won't solve the problem in America's two-party system. It needs serious election reform not just in donations but also in how the election works.
- 93po 5y ago
  I think the first step is to changing voting system so that it isn't possible to have spoiler candidates or "throw away" your vote. Of course it'll probably be 20-30 years before that happens.
  - myohmy 5y ago
    So the solution to the two party system is to eliminate democracy altogether? I mean, I guess I expect that in 20-30 too...
    - lacksconfidence 5y ago
      IMO the solution is at least releated to ranked choice voting, where people can vote for people that will never win (at least this time around) without their vote becoming meaningless.
    - IAmLiterallyAB 5y ago
      That's not what they said?? I assume by "change the voting system" they mean to use something like IRV or STAR voting
  - shkkmo 5y ago
    Alaska (my home state) implemented ranked choice voting and open primaries via a ballot initiative. This applies to both state and federal elections.

>Will nobody rid us of a corrupt collusion between government and corporation? We could by changing who we vote for.

by p_j_w 5y ago

>Will nobody rid us of a corrupt collusion between government and corporation? We could by changing who we vote for.

Yeah, considering the amount of money needed to be known and collect votes i guess it's either the government starting to fund campaigns and disallowing corporate donation or i see it as very hard to change that

oehpr 5y ago

I'm sure if party A doesn't fix it, party B will totally fix it! Definitely. Oh, but maybe you're right, if we all just collectively decided for party C, then things would really work. Huh, I guess party C can't get in because of FPTP, well we can change that! No big deal! Let's use a new voting system! ~ Signed: A person who lives in a province that has had 3 failed voting referendums.

myohmy 5y ago
If you're in BC (probably) then you need to look a little further back. The reason we have the BC Liberals (aka Conservatives) is because the NDP (socdems) won on FPTP and the Libs and Cons merged. Voting 3rd party is why we are the only province in Canada with a vaccine passport. I fully expect the Greens to win eventually. BCers will vote their conscience, everybody else be damned.

inetknght 5y ago

Changing votes won't solve the problem in America's two-party system. It needs serious election reform not just in donations but also in how the election works.

93po 5y ago
I think the first step is to changing voting system so that it isn't possible to have spoiler candidates or "throw away" your vote. Of course it'll probably be 20-30 years before that happens.
- myohmy 5y ago
  So the solution to the two party system is to eliminate democracy altogether? I mean, I guess I expect that in 20-30 too...
  - lacksconfidence 5y ago
    IMO the solution is at least releated to ranked choice voting, where people can vote for people that will never win (at least this time around) without their vote becoming meaningless.
  - IAmLiterallyAB 5y ago
    That's not what they said?? I assume by "change the voting system" they mean to use something like IRV or STAR voting
- shkkmo 5y ago
  Alaska (my home state) implemented ranked choice voting and open primaries via a ballot initiative. This applies to both state and federal elections.