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If you want to understand why so many people support vaccine mandates, think about it this way: The unvaccinated are launching a DDOS attack on the medical syst
by martythemaniak 5y ago
If you want to understand why so many people support vaccine mandates, think about it this way: The unvaccinated are launching a DDOS attack on the medical system. From spreading online misinformation and propaganda, to protesting outside of hospitals and harassing patients, to being abusing and giving PTSD to healthcare workers, to filling up ICUs with their bodies, they want to make sure you can't access medical services if you need them.
Guess what, my family has required ICU treatment in the past. They will in their future. I'm supposed to put these motherfuckers' made-believe "rights" ahead of the welfare of my family? No, that's not going to happen. I'm going to demand politicians crack down on these people and will support whoever does that, it's that simple.
- AndrewBissell 5y agoFunny, you probably harbor none of the same ill will (or desire for political retribution) to the people living in high comfort as a result of the relentless drive to profit-centered care in this country, which slashed the number of hospital beds from 1.4 million in 1975 to 900,000 in 2015, even as population increased by almost 50%. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/coronavirus-healthcare-consolidation/ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/coronavirus-health...
- peteradio 5y agoHow dare you attack this mans scapegoat.
- BizarroLand 5y agoThis isn't attacking a scapegoat, this is a false comparison of two separate issues, a.k.a. a "whataboutism". It's like when a kid says they're not hungry and don't want to finish their plate and a parent says that there are starving children in africa. The new information doesn't address the issue, instead it adds a burden of guilt on top of the original problem.
- peteradio 5y agoHardly. Its an alternative explanation for the fundamental issue at hand. Firing nurses is going to be multiplicatively more devastating than the marginal returns of vaccinating more people (hint most the population should be immune by now as long as those vaccines hold). All recent actions seem insincere and politically vengeful. edit. A post of mine above is flagged for stating that we should stop firing immune nurses. Is there something controversial about that statement?
- BizarroLand 5y agoIt's a completely different conversation. It may have contributed to the current climate but it is not the current topic of debate.
- BizarroLand 5y agoThis is whataboutism. If you have a legitimate response to the original poster, then you should directly argue with their post, not tell them their entire post is invalid because of some other thing.
- martythemaniak 5y agoI live in Canada, so I actually get to pay for these people's healthcare.
- belltaco 5y agoThat's the result of profit driven capitalism. If you try to change it, it will be demonized as socialism and govt control. Guess which partisan side is behind both things.
- nomaxx117 5y agoPlease stop with the ad hominems here. That is a relevant point (especially earlier in the pandemic), but it is decidedly not the issue at hand. Hospital beds are one of many issues at the moment. If we had more beds, that wouldn't alleviate the shortage of medical staff, for example. It also wouldn't solve the core issue at hand: a large percentage of the population is not willing to get vaccinated, despite an unimpeachable argument to do so.
- peteradio 5y agoStop firing immune nurses.