> To me PHP is an ugly language, with heaps of quirks and weird api's. The way it mixes markup and logic is gross. Kind of tangential, but I've found a similar

> To me PHP is an ugly language, with heaps of quirks and weird api's. The way it mixes markup and logic is gross. Kind of tangential, but I've found a similar thing in the React framework: After all these years working towards splitting UI with logic, React asks me to hardcode the graphical components in a return (<module1></module1><module2></module2>) function. It is something I just cannot grok. I prefer frameworks that let you separate the UI elements from the logic that drives them.