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The US issues approximately 1 million green cards per year. 86% of those (860k) are for family based and 140k are for employment based. Country caps for family

The US issues approximately 1 million green cards per year. 86% of those (860k) are for family based and 140k are for employment based. Country caps for family based GCs is not a bad thing and in fact it does address your point domination by populous countries. In absence of a secondary differentiation criteria, per country caps are a good thing for family based GCs. But for the 140k employment based GCs, it depends on the company hiring the individual based on a skillset/qualification and sponsoring them for permanent residency. Google doesn't differentiate between an engineer from Argentina and an engineer from India (arbitrary example). Why should one get a greencard within a year and the other have to wait 10+ years? John oliver did a piece on it last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXqnRMU1fTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXqnRMU1fTs

arcticbull 5y ago
> ... per country caps are a good thing for family based GCs. Would you mind going into detail on why you think that? To me, it's not obvious.
- PaywallBuster 5y ago
  Obviously these people can perfectly live on their own and forget their family behind
- 0xcafecafe 5y ago
  " In absence of a secondary differentiation criteria," I was addressing the concern of the PP who mentioned immigration being dominated by a few populous countries in absence of country caps. Ideally the immigration system should be revamped bottom up to include a point based system which gives points to educational qualifications as well as familial ties. The current political climate leaves that option out of the window. Hence at least removing country caps from employment based immigration (which is 14% of the total annual quota) is a reasonable common sense fix.
  - solveit 5y ago
    > immigration being dominated by a few populous countries in absence of country caps. Why is this bad?
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - 0xcafecafe 5y ago
      Honestly I don't think it is. However a lot of opponents to removing country caps are always concerned with this. Hence I was saying if anything country caps may be justified for family based GCs. There is no viable argument for them to remain for employment based GCs.
    - snovv_crash 5y ago
      Diversity?
      - arcticbull 5y ago
        Does diversity mean you have to have proportional representation for everyone on earth? Or does diversity just mean having various different ethnicities or national origins within the country? Does constraining some very large groups actually skew the demographics anyways?
        refurb 5y ago
        At least according to company’s HR, yeah, it means an equal proportion.
        arcticbull 5y ago
        Touché
sdenton4 5y ago
'Open Borders' lays out the extensive arguments for getting rid of caps altogether. https://www.smbc-comics.com/openborders/ https://www.smbc-comics.com/openborders/

arcticbull 5y ago

> ... per country caps are a good thing for family based GCs. Would you mind going into detail on why you think that? To me, it's not obvious.

PaywallBuster 5y ago
Obviously these people can perfectly live on their own and forget their family behind
0xcafecafe 5y ago
" In absence of a secondary differentiation criteria," I was addressing the concern of the PP who mentioned immigration being dominated by a few populous countries in absence of country caps. Ideally the immigration system should be revamped bottom up to include a point based system which gives points to educational qualifications as well as familial ties. The current political climate leaves that option out of the window. Hence at least removing country caps from employment based immigration (which is 14% of the total annual quota) is a reasonable common sense fix.
- solveit 5y ago
  > immigration being dominated by a few populous countries in absence of country caps. Why is this bad?
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - 0xcafecafe 5y ago
    Honestly I don't think it is. However a lot of opponents to removing country caps are always concerned with this. Hence I was saying if anything country caps may be justified for family based GCs. There is no viable argument for them to remain for employment based GCs.
  - snovv_crash 5y ago
    Diversity?
    - arcticbull 5y ago
      Does diversity mean you have to have proportional representation for everyone on earth? Or does diversity just mean having various different ethnicities or national origins within the country? Does constraining some very large groups actually skew the demographics anyways?
      - refurb 5y ago
        At least according to company’s HR, yeah, it means an equal proportion.
        arcticbull 5y ago
        Touché

sdenton4 5y ago

'Open Borders' lays out the extensive arguments for getting rid of caps altogether. https://www.smbc-comics.com/openborders/ https://www.smbc-comics.com/openborders/