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If they have feelings indistinguishable from humans, as you've put it, then that is not an unconscious AGI. Quite the opposite. It's not clear to me that you'v
by fighterpilot 5y ago
If they have feelings indistinguishable from humans, as you've put it, then that is not an unconscious AGI. Quite the opposite.
It's not clear to me that you've understood the distinction between conscious and unconscious AGI.
- theamk 5y agoWell, according to the top-level post we are discussing, conscious requires "shared physical resonance". I see no evidence that this resonance is required for "feelings indistinguishable from humans" bit, so it could one thing and not other. Also, there are people out there who believe in "philosophical zombies" -- beings that are "physically identical to and indistinguishable from a normal person but does not have conscious experience" [0]. People who believe that think that "a philosophical zombie were poked with a sharp object it would not inwardly feel any pain, yet it would outwardly behave exactly as if it did feel pain" I hope you see what this leads to -- just call someone "p-zombie" and you can make them suffer without feeling bad or having ethical problems. Based on your comment, it looks like you disagree with that definition -- but when you say things like "An AGI that's unconscious has no moral value" this certainly brings up p-zombie arguments and the idea that it is OK to make some beings suffer because they lack something unmeasurable and unquantifiable. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie