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Good. Uber is a unsustainable business built employee exploitation to effectively pay them less than minimum wage while flouting "freedom" to bait the people i

by BLanen 5y ago

Good. Uber is a unsustainable business built employee exploitation to effectively pay them less than minimum wage while flouting "freedom" to bait the people in the worst situations. This was known from the start. Meanwhile subsidising rides with investor-cash to effectively bait-and-switch society. The recent-ish price hikes are only a start. Anyone repeating their PR should be ashamed. "gigs" are cancer or wait, this is hackernews so "Gig-economy considered harmful" is the correct nomenclature I guess.

Jommi 5y ago
What a terribly lopsided and blanket view on a business working over 50+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies.
- arrosenberg 5y ago
  More like, working around 50+ regulatory states.
- BLanen 5y ago
  I don't care that they exist in many places. Corona is in 200+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies, I think that that is likewise bad for society and hope we get rid of it. There's enough other comments with the typical "nuance" you can read.
  - nickff 5y ago
    >"Corona is in 200+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies, I think that that is likewise bad for society and hope we get rid of it." COVID has killed over four and a half million people; about four million people have driven for Uber (worldwide). Do you really think that doing some driving for Uber and dying of COVID are "likewise bad"?
    - w-j-w 5y ago
      They're both bad, and the comparison points out why the parent comment had a garbage argument. Being able to swindle many sets of employment laws is not the same thing as "being good"
safog 5y ago
Yes, clearly you're a smart one and can see things clearly and none of the poor Uber drivers are smart enough to figure it out. Get over yourself.
- deleted 5y ago
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- BLanen 5y ago
  Yes, clearly this is all rational individual choice and society doesn't exist. Get over yourself.
jorblumesea 5y ago
How is the "gig economy" any different from the usual tricks that employers get around benefits? Walmart, for example, will schedule employees < 30 hours and stack entire stores with part timers. My confusion is that the gig economy companies get a large share of the hate (justified or unjustified) but much of the criticism seems to boil down to unregulated capitalism.

by BLanen 5y ago

Jommi 5y ago

What a terribly lopsided and blanket view on a business working over 50+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies.

arrosenberg 5y ago
More like, working around 50+ regulatory states.
BLanen 5y ago
I don't care that they exist in many places. Corona is in 200+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies, I think that that is likewise bad for society and hope we get rid of it. There's enough other comments with the typical "nuance" you can read.
- nickff 5y ago
  >"Corona is in 200+ different ethical and regulatory environments/societies, I think that that is likewise bad for society and hope we get rid of it." COVID has killed over four and a half million people; about four million people have driven for Uber (worldwide). Do you really think that doing some driving for Uber and dying of COVID are "likewise bad"?
  - w-j-w 5y ago
    They're both bad, and the comparison points out why the parent comment had a garbage argument. Being able to swindle many sets of employment laws is not the same thing as "being good"

safog 5y ago

Yes, clearly you're a smart one and can see things clearly and none of the poor Uber drivers are smart enough to figure it out. Get over yourself.

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BLanen 5y ago
Yes, clearly this is all rational individual choice and society doesn't exist. Get over yourself.

jorblumesea 5y ago

How is the "gig economy" any different from the usual tricks that employers get around benefits? Walmart, for example, will schedule employees < 30 hours and stack entire stores with part timers. My confusion is that the gig economy companies get a large share of the hate (justified or unjustified) but much of the criticism seems to boil down to unregulated capitalism.