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ElectricityMap is a nice live view of current energy generation and consumption by type of energy. Unfortunately right now https://www.electricitymap.org/zone

ElectricityMap is a nice live view of current energy generation and consumption by type of energy. Unfortunately right now https://www.electricitymap.org/zone/DE https://www.electricitymap.org/zone/DE shows Germany is generating most energy from Coal. It is sad that they didn't embrace nuclear like neighboring France.

realusername 5y ago
That's always what people should have in mind when they see those headlines "100% renewable today!", yeah but there's some days where it reaches 3%.
- pydry 5y ago
  Which days? It's currently 43%.
  - realusername 5y ago
    Wait until winter, now it's just no wind but then you'll have no wind and not much sun both in the same time.
    - pydry 5y ago
      The wind does still blow and the sun still shines in winter. I was wondering if you were referencing data from a particular day in winter 2020 or if it was a guess.
bildung 5y ago
Decisions like these seldomly are about engineering alone. France didn't embrace nuclear out of the goodness of their hearts - they wanted to become a nuclear power, and needed the infrastructure and specialists and so on to become one (establish study paths, and give those students the prospect of jobs so that they actually choose the new paths etc.). Now that this isn't of strategic importance anymore, France lost interest in nuclear plants (just look at what gets built in recent decades in France). Because nuclear power by itself isn't that interesting, mostly because it is so hugely expensive and inflexible. Germany was never allowed to get nuclear infrastructure because they started two world wars, and at the time no one was interested in Germany having nukes for the third attempt. Even research alone wasn't allowed for decades after the end of WW2. That's also the reason why Germany has no capacity for processing used fuel rods and does this in France to this day - its dual use tech.
- realusername 5y ago
  > Now that this isn't of strategic importance anymore, France lost interest in nuclear plants (just look at what gets built in recent decades in France). Because nuclear power by itself isn't that interesting, mostly because it is so hugely expensive and inflexible. Half of the problem in France are the green activists & the public to build more and the other half is that the EU is extremely against nuclear and does all of what they can to sabotage the funding.
  - cinntaile 5y ago
    The EU isn't against nuclear, the EU is against illegal state subsidizing in a liberalized market.
    - realusername 5y ago
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-eu-transitionfund-idUSKBN2472HN https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-eu-transit... That's maybe how they are trying to spin it yeah.
      - cinntaile 5y ago
        I'm confused, I thought we were talking about France? The above makes sense though, nuclear power plants are a bit too expensive to build compared to other alternatives. You get more bang for your buck by investing it elsewhere. I wonder what their definition of green is, it's clearly not CO2-based. Nuclear energy is not renewable so maybe that's their angle?
        realusername 5y ago
        I'm going to tell you the truth nobody want's to hear in the EU, a lot of EU countries bet very big on renewables and they can't afford to fail so they are doing everything they can to go their way, this includes clever definitions of subsidizing & so-called "green" funds.
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realusername 5y ago

That's always what people should have in mind when they see those headlines "100% renewable today!", yeah but there's some days where it reaches 3%.

pydry 5y ago
Which days? It's currently 43%.
- realusername 5y ago
  Wait until winter, now it's just no wind but then you'll have no wind and not much sun both in the same time.
  - pydry 5y ago
    The wind does still blow and the sun still shines in winter. I was wondering if you were referencing data from a particular day in winter 2020 or if it was a guess.

bildung 5y ago

Decisions like these seldomly are about engineering alone. France didn't embrace nuclear out of the goodness of their hearts - they wanted to become a nuclear power, and needed the infrastructure and specialists and so on to become one (establish study paths, and give those students the prospect of jobs so that they actually choose the new paths etc.). Now that this isn't of strategic importance anymore, France lost interest in nuclear plants (just look at what gets built in recent decades in France). Because nuclear power by itself isn't that interesting, mostly because it is so hugely expensive and inflexible. Germany was never allowed to get nuclear infrastructure because they started two world wars, and at the time no one was interested in Germany having nukes for the third attempt. Even research alone wasn't allowed for decades after the end of WW2. That's also the reason why Germany has no capacity for processing used fuel rods and does this in France to this day - its dual use tech.

realusername 5y ago
> Now that this isn't of strategic importance anymore, France lost interest in nuclear plants (just look at what gets built in recent decades in France). Because nuclear power by itself isn't that interesting, mostly because it is so hugely expensive and inflexible. Half of the problem in France are the green activists & the public to build more and the other half is that the EU is extremely against nuclear and does all of what they can to sabotage the funding.
- cinntaile 5y ago
  The EU isn't against nuclear, the EU is against illegal state subsidizing in a liberalized market.
  - realusername 5y ago
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-eu-transitionfund-idUSKBN2472HN https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-eu-transit... That's maybe how they are trying to spin it yeah.
    - cinntaile 5y ago
      I'm confused, I thought we were talking about France? The above makes sense though, nuclear power plants are a bit too expensive to build compared to other alternatives. You get more bang for your buck by investing it elsewhere. I wonder what their definition of green is, it's clearly not CO2-based. Nuclear energy is not renewable so maybe that's their angle?
      - realusername 5y ago
        I'm going to tell you the truth nobody want's to hear in the EU, a lot of EU countries bet very big on renewables and they can't afford to fail so they are doing everything they can to go their way, this includes clever definitions of subsidizing & so-called "green" funds.
5y ago