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> Can't believe they let someone like that I assume you're referring to Rian Johnson - I wouldn't lay the blame all on him - he's clearly capable of making gre

> Can't believe they let someone like that I assume you're referring to Rian Johnson - I wouldn't lay the blame all on him - he's clearly capable of making great fun movies. I think the fact that the new trilogy is an incohesive mess is entirely the fault of Disney as a whole not knowing what they wanted to do with it. I'd also lay a ton of the blame at JJ Abraham's feet - the man loves to set up a mystery but seemingly doesn't ever know the answer himself. Rian certainly made some interesting choices, but I can't help but think that it's because he had no roadmap for what was supposed to happen and no one was there to tell him no.

darkerside 5y ago
He asked JJ to make changes to TFA to set up his vision for TLJ. JJ certainly shares blame (TROS was garbage and everybody knows it, including JJ), and the flaws you describe are accurate. But this was RJ's movie, given to him by the executives at Disney, with no interference to speak of. How can you not blame the man with the smoking gun?
- SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
  > He asked JJ to make changes to TFA to set up his vision for TLJ. Do you have articles about that? I hadn't heard about it. It's also surprising considering that JJ didn't do the same back to him, especially with the whole "no, her lineage IS special" thing. Weird power dynamics. > How can you not blame the man with the smoking gun? Because it was all garbage? Honestly, if they'd continued on TLJ's path, I think it would have been a better ending than what actually happened. Maybe they would have changed Star Wars instead of just rehashing the exact same thing again.
  - darkerside 5y ago
    https://www.inverse.com/article/40133-star-wars-luke-skywalker-force-last-jedi-force-awakens-ending https://www.inverse.com/article/40133-star-wars-luke-skywalk... I agree it was all trash, and honestly, as much as I resent TLJ, it would have been a better trilogy if they went down the shit path that RJ sent them down. JJ didn't even try.

darkerside 5y ago

He asked JJ to make changes to TFA to set up his vision for TLJ. JJ certainly shares blame (TROS was garbage and everybody knows it, including JJ), and the flaws you describe are accurate. But this was RJ's movie, given to him by the executives at Disney, with no interference to speak of. How can you not blame the man with the smoking gun?

SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
> He asked JJ to make changes to TFA to set up his vision for TLJ. Do you have articles about that? I hadn't heard about it. It's also surprising considering that JJ didn't do the same back to him, especially with the whole "no, her lineage IS special" thing. Weird power dynamics. > How can you not blame the man with the smoking gun? Because it was all garbage? Honestly, if they'd continued on TLJ's path, I think it would have been a better ending than what actually happened. Maybe they would have changed Star Wars instead of just rehashing the exact same thing again.
- darkerside 5y ago
  https://www.inverse.com/article/40133-star-wars-luke-skywalker-force-last-jedi-force-awakens-ending https://www.inverse.com/article/40133-star-wars-luke-skywalk... I agree it was all trash, and honestly, as much as I resent TLJ, it would have been a better trilogy if they went down the shit path that RJ sent them down. JJ didn't even try.