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If I hire a contractor to renovate my home to my exact specifications, by your logic they are my employee because they couldn't choose the "route" or "destinati
by Jxl180 5y ago
If I hire a contractor to renovate my home to my exact specifications, by your logic they are my employee because they couldn't choose the "route" or "destination?"
- mqus 5y agoThey do get to set the prices (the part gp forgot to mention).
- killtimeatwork 5y agoEmployees also set their own prices? "For me to accept a job offer, you have to pay me at least $150k" - that's setting your own price.
- gjulianm 5y agoThey can choose to not work with you and instead work with another client that has specifications that fit better with their work.
- Jxl180 5y agoSo do drivers for grubhub/doordash/uber eats. They see the final payout and have the choice to skip the order if it doesn't pay well enough.
- gjulianm 5y agoExcept for the part that the companies will punish them for rejecting orders, and that they can't negotiate the price of the orders nor set any price themselves.
- campl3r 5y agoAre you saying if I hire a contractor with a price set by me and I would "punish" (i.e. never hire them again) when they don't agree, they are suddenly my employee?
- Ekaros 5y agoWhen you are hiring contractor you offer a price the contractor can come back and say I can do it for this higher price. Clearly not employee. On other hand the gig workers can't lets say offer to bring your food for 1000€ this one time. They should be able if they are independent.
- Jxl180 5y ago1. Doordash does not penalize for skipping orders. They give the total payout first to allow people to skip orders in the first place. It’s a feature. 2. Because you see the price before accepting an order, you are effectively negotiating the orders you want to take based on price. You can sit in your car all day declining orders until you see a price you agree with.
- Ekaros 5y agoIf you were to hire contractor from company that was set-up to outsource your work to one of it many sub-contractors which only worked for them and had no deciding power how to do it and for what price, yes they would be employees.