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I disagree. The "disinformation" is exaggerated. Many conspiracy theories turn out to be true after time. The problem is, there is a vocal group of people, who

I disagree. The "disinformation" is exaggerated. Many conspiracy theories turn out to be true after time. The problem is, there is a vocal group of people, who take the government/big corporation official stance as gospel, and anyone who even dares to question the status quo is branded as a harmful influence.

culopatin 5y ago
So you think the Earth will be proven to be flat and the vaccines will be proven to have nanobots and 5G modems in the future?
- golergka 5y ago
  I think that Covid will have been proven to come out of Chinese virus lab. Which doesn't sound as a crazy conspiracy theory right now, but for a time during 2020, was suppressed just as the conspiracy theories you've listed. Have you considered a possibility that may be, the outright idiotic conspiracy theories that you're talking about don't actually have that much supporters, and could be used as scrape-goats to excuse the censorship and information control which would actually be targeted at much less insane stuff?
  - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
    I believe COVID came out of a Chinese virus lab, but I also think that the leak of the virus was done out of incompetence, not malice.
    - golergka 5y ago
      That's reasonable. Also, I _think_ that it came from a lab, but it's still 80-90%, not 100% for me. And then there are some theories that I don't agree with, as I think that their probability is 5-20%, but it's important that those theories, too, aren't silenced, as they're completely different from 0% "Earth is flat" BS. Edit: Actually, strike that: I think that none theories should be silenced, including flat Earth. Exactly because of what I described in this thread.
mcherm 5y ago
> Many conspiracy theories turn out to be true after time. I would be interested to know what evidence you have for this. Of course, given the billions of ideas in the world there are necessarily a few conspiracy theories that were later shown to be true. But it has always been my impression that the percentage of conspiracy theories that later turn out to be true is vanishingly small... perhaps one in a million or less? Do you know of any evidence of the prevalence of ideas seen as conspiracy theories at first but later shown to be true?

culopatin 5y ago

So you think the Earth will be proven to be flat and the vaccines will be proven to have nanobots and 5G modems in the future?

golergka 5y ago
I think that Covid will have been proven to come out of Chinese virus lab. Which doesn't sound as a crazy conspiracy theory right now, but for a time during 2020, was suppressed just as the conspiracy theories you've listed. Have you considered a possibility that may be, the outright idiotic conspiracy theories that you're talking about don't actually have that much supporters, and could be used as scrape-goats to excuse the censorship and information control which would actually be targeted at much less insane stuff?
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
  I believe COVID came out of a Chinese virus lab, but I also think that the leak of the virus was done out of incompetence, not malice.
  - golergka 5y ago
    That's reasonable. Also, I _think_ that it came from a lab, but it's still 80-90%, not 100% for me. And then there are some theories that I don't agree with, as I think that their probability is 5-20%, but it's important that those theories, too, aren't silenced, as they're completely different from 0% "Earth is flat" BS. Edit: Actually, strike that: I think that none theories should be silenced, including flat Earth. Exactly because of what I described in this thread.

mcherm 5y ago

> Many conspiracy theories turn out to be true after time. I would be interested to know what evidence you have for this. Of course, given the billions of ideas in the world there are necessarily a few conspiracy theories that were later shown to be true. But it has always been my impression that the percentage of conspiracy theories that later turn out to be true is vanishingly small... perhaps one in a million or less? Do you know of any evidence of the prevalence of ideas seen as conspiracy theories at first but later shown to be true?