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Do you recommend it? It's one of the few scifi shows I haven't seen but stumble upon from time to time. It seems a bit low-budget and oldschool TV (pre-breaking

Do you recommend it? It's one of the few scifi shows I haven't seen but stumble upon from time to time. It seems a bit low-budget and oldschool TV (pre-breaking bad quality of TV).

TeMPOraL 5y ago
I do. It's pretty decent. It does go a bit downhill later on, but I'd say in the late S3 and S4 (I blame it on the show being cut short and having to wrap up everything too quickly). In the genre of "seemingly a crime show, but really a deep sci-fi", I'd strongly recommend Person of Interest, if you haven't seen it already. It contains what I consider to be, to date, the best discussion of the topic of general artificial intelligence, and all its ethical and safety implications. > It seems a bit low-budget and oldschool TV It's definitely not big-budget, but there's decent FX in there, just judiciously used. Future tech is impressive, but not crazy flashy. > (pre-breaking bad quality of TV). Could you elaborate on that one? I've only seen the first three episodes, after which I gave up, but from those three I thought Breaking Bad is a low-quality and extremely low-budget show.
- SuoDuanDao 5y ago
  Not sure what GP meant by 'pre breaking bad', but I'll give it a shot. It is quite low budget, but the writing does seem like it heralded a change of some sort. I think it's less formulaic but it's hard to really put one's finger on it. To my understanding Breaking Bad was a show where the writers counted on people bingeing it, so they could tell a longer story instead of having to have every thirty minutes be self-contained.
  - markenqualitaet 5y ago
    Pretty much what I meant :) BB is the point when TV series started to be seen as superior format for sophisticated story telling. When series became very long movies basically.
- markenqualitaet 5y ago
  Thanks! I tried PoI, but it didn't catch me (first ep only). Maybe I try again. I would love a good, techy private detective series. Would love to find something like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, as a series. For me, in Germany, Breaking Bad was the series which changed the game. After breaking bad, TV became the superior story vessel. There were some good series before, but after BB "everyone" around saw the appeal. It's a different narrative style than traditional TV series. Even gems like Battlestar Galactica, feel more episodically contained and are not bincheable like modern shows. BB wasn't pioneering but rather the turning stone(?), I think. And yes, I do recommend giving BB another try. It starts so slowly, but it will get insanely intense! However, it's becoming uncomfortably stressful story-wise. If you don't like that sort of drama, you may not enjoy it. Then Better Call Saul is even better, but also even more slow progression. Tho, if you got into the BB style, the wrinting, acting and cinematography are unmatched IMO.
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    Thanks, I'll revisit BB. Going by your explanation, I understand you like serialized TV shows - vs. episodic ones. I'm not sure if BB was the turning point there - there's been a steady change in preferences from episodic to serialized over the decades now, probably starting with invention of VCR, and reaching full speed when Netflix introduced their streaming service. PoI is somewhere in the middle. In S1, most episodes stand on their own, but they do spin out story arcs, that start to dominate later on. By S4, it's almost entirely serialized - but in a good way. It's definitely binge-friendly (I've done it multiple times, and didn't get bored yet).
Cats_In_Love 5y ago
The female heroin is hot.
- 867-5309 5y ago
  let the spoon cool before injecting
- markenqualitaet 5y ago
  Thank you for the review. I am not into voyeurism and sexually liberated enough to feel unashamed watching porn directly for erotic stimulation. So, I am rather looking for insights of a different substance.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
It's Ok. Personally I feel the first season or so is pretty weak but then it manages to be solidly interesting for the rest of it.
bserge 5y ago
Nah, goes downhill story quality wise fast after S1
mark_l_watson 5y ago
Yes, I liked it

Do you recommend it? It's one of the few scifi shows I haven't seen but stumble upon from time to time. It seems a bit low-budget and oldschool TV (pre-breaking bad quality of TV).

TeMPOraL 5y ago

I do. It's pretty decent. It does go a bit downhill later on, but I'd say in the late S3 and S4 (I blame it on the show being cut short and having to wrap up everything too quickly). In the genre of "seemingly a crime show, but really a deep sci-fi", I'd strongly recommend Person of Interest, if you haven't seen it already. It contains what I consider to be, to date, the best discussion of the topic of general artificial intelligence, and all its ethical and safety implications. > It seems a bit low-budget and oldschool TV It's definitely not big-budget, but there's decent FX in there, just judiciously used. Future tech is impressive, but not crazy flashy. > (pre-breaking bad quality of TV). Could you elaborate on that one? I've only seen the first three episodes, after which I gave up, but from those three I thought Breaking Bad is a low-quality and extremely low-budget show.

SuoDuanDao 5y ago
Not sure what GP meant by 'pre breaking bad', but I'll give it a shot. It is quite low budget, but the writing does seem like it heralded a change of some sort. I think it's less formulaic but it's hard to really put one's finger on it. To my understanding Breaking Bad was a show where the writers counted on people bingeing it, so they could tell a longer story instead of having to have every thirty minutes be self-contained.
- markenqualitaet 5y ago
  Pretty much what I meant :) BB is the point when TV series started to be seen as superior format for sophisticated story telling. When series became very long movies basically.
markenqualitaet 5y ago
Thanks! I tried PoI, but it didn't catch me (first ep only). Maybe I try again. I would love a good, techy private detective series. Would love to find something like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, as a series. For me, in Germany, Breaking Bad was the series which changed the game. After breaking bad, TV became the superior story vessel. There were some good series before, but after BB "everyone" around saw the appeal. It's a different narrative style than traditional TV series. Even gems like Battlestar Galactica, feel more episodically contained and are not bincheable like modern shows. BB wasn't pioneering but rather the turning stone(?), I think. And yes, I do recommend giving BB another try. It starts so slowly, but it will get insanely intense! However, it's becoming uncomfortably stressful story-wise. If you don't like that sort of drama, you may not enjoy it. Then Better Call Saul is even better, but also even more slow progression. Tho, if you got into the BB style, the wrinting, acting and cinematography are unmatched IMO.
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  Thanks, I'll revisit BB. Going by your explanation, I understand you like serialized TV shows - vs. episodic ones. I'm not sure if BB was the turning point there - there's been a steady change in preferences from episodic to serialized over the decades now, probably starting with invention of VCR, and reaching full speed when Netflix introduced their streaming service. PoI is somewhere in the middle. In S1, most episodes stand on their own, but they do spin out story arcs, that start to dominate later on. By S4, it's almost entirely serialized - but in a good way. It's definitely binge-friendly (I've done it multiple times, and didn't get bored yet).

Cats_In_Love 5y ago

The female heroin is hot.

867-5309 5y ago
let the spoon cool before injecting
markenqualitaet 5y ago
Thank you for the review. I am not into voyeurism and sexually liberated enough to feel unashamed watching porn directly for erotic stimulation. So, I am rather looking for insights of a different substance.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

It's Ok. Personally I feel the first season or so is pretty weak but then it manages to be solidly interesting for the rest of it.

bserge 5y ago

Nah, goes downhill story quality wise fast after S1

mark_l_watson 5y ago

Yes, I liked it