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I'm no particular Apple fan - I have issues with them and the list grows so I'm even considering moving away from their ecosystem. But a couple points strikes m

I'm no particular Apple fan - I have issues with them and the list grows so I'm even considering moving away from their ecosystem. But a couple points strikes me as not accurate. > On the Mac, I think you have to open the Music app and click on a bunch of links Maybe there's a route like that, but at least today it's always under Apple ID management, and I find that quite logical. On macOS it's under System Preferences -> Apple ID -> Media and Purchases -> Subscriptions: [Manage...] button. Don't have a phone at hand but it's very similar on iOS, somewhere under Settings -> Apple ID. I forgot the exact location but it's with some fairly obvious name, like "Purchases" or "Subscriptions", very hard to miss it. Naturally, it requires learning where it is for the first time, but then it's fairly intuitive. > In one app I clicked "start 14 day trial", but ended up being charged for an annual subscription immediately. Hm. That's odd. Apps could be pretty deceptive and even outright scummy, but at least on iOS the system payment UI (the one where you have to double-tap the power button) was always very clear about how much and when exactly it would charge me.

yarcob 5y ago
> But a couple points strikes me as not accurate I'm talking about my personal experience with Apple subscriptions. Maybe I am remembering something inaccurately, but that doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is that I prefer other companies payment systems, and I really don't like that Apple tries to force their service that I don't want on me. > On macOS it's under System Preferences -> Apple ID -> Media and Purchases -> Subscriptions: [Manage...] button. I just tried that, and it didn't work. Just showed a spinner for a minute, and then opened the App Store home screen. Everything related to Apple ID is slow and unreliable for me, I don't know why they don't just have a simple web interface like every other company. (On a second attempt it worked.) > Hm. That's odd. Apps could be pretty deceptive and even outright scummy, but at least on iOS the system payment UI (the one where you have to double-tap the power button) was always very clear about how much and when exactly it would charge me. The system UI was accurate. The button before was not. For some reason I thought that the system UI showed the price AFTER the trial, so I confirmed the payment, thinking I could still cancel it for two weeks.

yarcob 5y ago

> But a couple points strikes me as not accurate I'm talking about my personal experience with Apple subscriptions. Maybe I am remembering something inaccurately, but that doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is that I prefer other companies payment systems, and I really don't like that Apple tries to force their service that I don't want on me. > On macOS it's under System Preferences -> Apple ID -> Media and Purchases -> Subscriptions: [Manage...] button. I just tried that, and it didn't work. Just showed a spinner for a minute, and then opened the App Store home screen. Everything related to Apple ID is slow and unreliable for me, I don't know why they don't just have a simple web interface like every other company. (On a second attempt it worked.) > Hm. That's odd. Apps could be pretty deceptive and even outright scummy, but at least on iOS the system payment UI (the one where you have to double-tap the power button) was always very clear about how much and when exactly it would charge me. The system UI was accurate. The button before was not. For some reason I thought that the system UI showed the price AFTER the trial, so I confirmed the payment, thinking I could still cancel it for two weeks.