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I hate this and it's gross government overreach but it's those few bastards who've deliberately and surreptitiously defied quarantine that's given the governmen
by hilbert42 5y ago
I hate this and it's gross government overreach but it's those few bastards who've deliberately and surreptitiously defied quarantine that's given the government the excuse it needs to so act.
Unlike the US, COVID was essentially controlled in Australia until some very specific violations of quarantine happened - and the outbreak traced to these violators. These outbreaks weren't of iffy origin, they were clearcut linked to these perpetrators.
In an era where governments everywhere are going authoritarian it only takes something like this to be used as an excuse. The trouble is there'll be little complaint from the public as everyone is aware of the causal link to the outbreaks - and the Australian public, like bloody-minded sheep, is too easily spooked when governments crack the whip.
Unfortunately, Australia is a very conservative country and the vast majority of its citizens do what they're told without question even when government makes crazy decisions, so we've a double-whammy problem/excuse when a few people go feral.
- jp0d 5y agoTotally agree with you on this one. Nobody really wants the govt to abuse their power to implement such measures. However, those few bastards are the reason why we all are having to suffer! If we all could agree and limit our movements until the vaccines targets are met, the death and hospitalisation rates should drop, statistically speaking! Violations like this are quite rampant in some suburbs/communities! One of my mates was at a takeaway food place in Craigieburn and an entire family of 5 with no masks had gathered behind him and were almost within a few centimetres. The guy got quite aggro when confronted by my mate! This is just getting mental!
- tosstoyevsky 5y agoAt what point do you kill those that dare live their lives? This happened a generation ago to my people, they said we carried typhus and needed to be cleansed for the public health. Never again, huh?
- jp0d 5y agoThat's not a good argument or a fair comparison, mate! One is a highly infectious disease that is spreading through contact and via air and the other is history! Covid has killed more than a million people and is continuing to do so as it mutates to get deadlier and deadlier. Please don't tell me that it's a lie and a conspiracy theory as I've lost family members to this engineered microscopic monstrosity!
- ghoward 5y agoViruses generally mutate to be less deadly, not more. And it is a fair comparison because both were used as excuses by governments for overreach.
- jp0d 5y ago> Viruses generally mutate to be less deadly, not more. Clearly that's not the case with Covid!
- ghoward 5y agoActually, it is. Delta is less deadly than the original strain. And even if it wasn't, it would be true in the long run.
- hilbert42 5y ago'Viruses generally mutate to be less deadly, not more.' Some might do but cholera, polio and smallpox and many, many other diseases are still just as virulent as they ever were down through the ages. (I know, smallpox only exists in labs but the last known case was a lab worker who died). That argument is essentially a non sequitur, it's attempting to justify a position that doesn't really exist - and even if it did then it'd be by the very slimest of margins (apply with very strict constraints). Even in cases where certain viruses have mutated to weaker strains - and given the high stakes involved (gambling with human life), then you would not only have to be extremely specific but also provide soild/reputable scientific evidence to backup your assertions (i.e.: for specific viruses/strains, etc.).