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I don't know that there are documented non-COVID deaths due to it, but various parts of the southern US (where vaccination rates are low) have reported ICUs at

I don't know that there are documented non-COVID deaths due to it, but various parts of the southern US (where vaccination rates are low) have reported ICUs at or near capacity. E.g. https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/08/19/tennessee-icu-beds-full-most-hospitals-every-major-metro-area/8193199002/ https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/08/19/tenn... One has to assume that at a certain level there is a finite quantity of medical care available at a given facility, and a spike in COVID cases would deplete it. Whether or not that threshold has been crossed, and if not how close such places are to crossing it, is an interesting question.

IncRnd 5y ago
Thank you, but that news article seems incorrect. When I look at the hospital capacity for TN, according to the TN Dept. of Health, I see available floor beds, some available ICU beds, 62% available adult ventilators, and 1/3 available airborn infection isolation rooms. [1] [1] https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data/hospitalization-data/hospital-capacity.html https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data/hospitalization-da...
- pdabbadabba 5y ago
  The article says that there are no ICU beds in "every major Tennessee metro area." The TDH dashboard you linked to says (today) that 4% of ICU beds are available statewide. Given that ICU bed use is almost certainly not entirely uniform statewide, and that it might be expected to be highest in metro areas, it seems entirely plausible in light of the TDH data that there are no available beds in metro areas--or at least close enough to literally zero that Tennesseans should be very worried.
  - IncRnd 5y ago
    It is somewhat worthless to pile assumptions on top of assumptions to come to conclusions. If you look at the map of Share of I.C.U. beds occupied, you can make a better, more finely grained decision. [1] The question I asked has nothing to do with whether ICU beds are occupied. However, I also will point out that you are replying to a reply to a reply to my question, none of which actually addressed what I asked. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/davidson-tennessee-covid-cases.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/davidson-tenness...
- JeremyNT 5y ago
  Incorrect how? Individual hospitals themselves are reporting they are at capacity. The TN rollup statistics aren't going to tell you very much about whether your local hospital is actually full at a given time, which is going to be the most relevant thing to know if you're seeking urgent care.

IncRnd 5y ago

Thank you, but that news article seems incorrect. When I look at the hospital capacity for TN, according to the TN Dept. of Health, I see available floor beds, some available ICU beds, 62% available adult ventilators, and 1/3 available airborn infection isolation rooms. [1] [1] https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data/hospitalization-data/hospital-capacity.html https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data/hospitalization-da...

pdabbadabba 5y ago
The article says that there are no ICU beds in "every major Tennessee metro area." The TDH dashboard you linked to says (today) that 4% of ICU beds are available statewide. Given that ICU bed use is almost certainly not entirely uniform statewide, and that it might be expected to be highest in metro areas, it seems entirely plausible in light of the TDH data that there are no available beds in metro areas--or at least close enough to literally zero that Tennesseans should be very worried.
- IncRnd 5y ago
  It is somewhat worthless to pile assumptions on top of assumptions to come to conclusions. If you look at the map of Share of I.C.U. beds occupied, you can make a better, more finely grained decision. [1] The question I asked has nothing to do with whether ICU beds are occupied. However, I also will point out that you are replying to a reply to a reply to my question, none of which actually addressed what I asked. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/davidson-tennessee-covid-cases.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/davidson-tenness...
JeremyNT 5y ago
Incorrect how? Individual hospitals themselves are reporting they are at capacity. The TN rollup statistics aren't going to tell you very much about whether your local hospital is actually full at a given time, which is going to be the most relevant thing to know if you're seeking urgent care.