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I work remotely even before Covid. I am also vaccinated. I would quit if this was mandated on me. My country already has vaccine 'passports' for certain activi

I work remotely even before Covid. I am also vaccinated. I would quit if this was mandated on me. My country already has vaccine 'passports' for certain activities, and while I am fully vaccinated and support vaccines in general, I fully oppose vaccine mandates/passports and refuse to do any activity that requires it. I guess if in the future to go to the supermarket to buy food I might show my passport as the alternative is to starve, I am 100% against this and will as much as I can, remove myself from civilisation if this the path we move towards to. (ps: also no FB, IG, twitter, bla bla blah before someone says X or Y are tracking me already)

tmh88j 5y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/vaccine-mandates-history.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/vaccine-manda...
- odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
  I am not american so not sure why this reply is supposed to mean anything. While highly encouraged, vaccines aren't even mandatory here and you can refuse any vaccine and still legally allowed to do anything (school, university, healthcare worker, etc)
  - ghaff 5y ago
    They are in the US and pre-COVID many schools and occupations (esp. healthcare) had requirements as well.
  - tmh88j 5y ago
    >I am not american so not sure why this reply is supposed to mean anything. Does not being American affect your ability to read? I'm not Asian but I understand why many cultures have long ago adopted the widespread use of masks to prevent spreading illness.
    - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
      No, it hasn't, but just posting an article how in the US before there was a vaccine mandate adds nothing to the discussion. Many countries never had them (and the world isn't only the US), and even if the US or other country has done this before, doesn't mean it is right to do so now.
      - tmh88j 5y ago
        >No, it hasn't, but just posting an article how in the US before there was a vaccine mandate adds nothing to the discussion Of course it doesn't further the discussion when you refuse to acknowledge it in the first place. I'll just copy and paste what I wrote again because you ignored it the first time. >Does not being American affect your ability to read? I'm not Asian but I understand why many cultures have long ago adopted the widespread use of masks to prevent spreading illness.
SpikeDad 5y ago
Why? You provided no rationale for this position. Do you have a drivers license in your country? Mandated insurance? Pay taxes? It's the price we pay for having such large populations in societies - we all have to sometimes do things that we might not want for the betterment of the society we live in.
- odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
  Are you ok with going to a bar and showing you don't have HIV so in case you hook up with someone you won't spread it? Or to go to a restaurant and prove you have a flu vaccine? Or tuberculosis exam as it also spreads via the air from an infected person? What about if you haven't been able to get the vaccine (like my girlfriend which she is stuck in a fucking bureaucratic limbo due to most public services not working due to.. well guess what, COVID lockdowns) and not being able to be part of everyday life? And I really dislike the 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' way of thinking. If now to enter a restaurant we required a rectal exam, it should be ok right? you already have a driving license so we should be able to ask anything else based on that alone
  - a10c 5y ago
    > And I really dislike the 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' way of thinking. You've literally employed that thinking in your rebuttal. "We don't have to do X, Y, Z. So why this also?"
  - ayemiller 5y ago
    The 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' is what you are using to argue against the vaccine. I think a little nuanced thinking goes a long way when comparing all of the examples you proposed.
    - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
      Please note I am not arguing against the vaccine. I am fully vaccinated. I am against limiting parts of society to people that haven't been vaccinated no matter the reason why. There is a big difference (I have all my vaccines, my son also has all his vaccines, and he may or may not get the covid vaccine depending on the recommendations for his age group).

tmh88j 5y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/vaccine-mandates-history.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/us/politics/vaccine-manda...

odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
I am not american so not sure why this reply is supposed to mean anything. While highly encouraged, vaccines aren't even mandatory here and you can refuse any vaccine and still legally allowed to do anything (school, university, healthcare worker, etc)
- ghaff 5y ago
  They are in the US and pre-COVID many schools and occupations (esp. healthcare) had requirements as well.
- tmh88j 5y ago
  >I am not american so not sure why this reply is supposed to mean anything. Does not being American affect your ability to read? I'm not Asian but I understand why many cultures have long ago adopted the widespread use of masks to prevent spreading illness.
  - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
    No, it hasn't, but just posting an article how in the US before there was a vaccine mandate adds nothing to the discussion. Many countries never had them (and the world isn't only the US), and even if the US or other country has done this before, doesn't mean it is right to do so now.
    - tmh88j 5y ago
      >No, it hasn't, but just posting an article how in the US before there was a vaccine mandate adds nothing to the discussion Of course it doesn't further the discussion when you refuse to acknowledge it in the first place. I'll just copy and paste what I wrote again because you ignored it the first time. >Does not being American affect your ability to read? I'm not Asian but I understand why many cultures have long ago adopted the widespread use of masks to prevent spreading illness.

SpikeDad 5y ago

Why? You provided no rationale for this position. Do you have a drivers license in your country? Mandated insurance? Pay taxes? It's the price we pay for having such large populations in societies - we all have to sometimes do things that we might not want for the betterment of the society we live in.

odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
Are you ok with going to a bar and showing you don't have HIV so in case you hook up with someone you won't spread it? Or to go to a restaurant and prove you have a flu vaccine? Or tuberculosis exam as it also spreads via the air from an infected person? What about if you haven't been able to get the vaccine (like my girlfriend which she is stuck in a fucking bureaucratic limbo due to most public services not working due to.. well guess what, COVID lockdowns) and not being able to be part of everyday life? And I really dislike the 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' way of thinking. If now to enter a restaurant we required a rectal exam, it should be ok right? you already have a driving license so we should be able to ask anything else based on that alone
- a10c 5y ago
  > And I really dislike the 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' way of thinking. You've literally employed that thinking in your rebuttal. "We don't have to do X, Y, Z. So why this also?"
- ayemiller 5y ago
  The 'well we have mandatory things already, so why not this also?' is what you are using to argue against the vaccine. I think a little nuanced thinking goes a long way when comparing all of the examples you proposed.
  - odshoifsdhfs 5y ago
    Please note I am not arguing against the vaccine. I am fully vaccinated. I am against limiting parts of society to people that haven't been vaccinated no matter the reason why. There is a big difference (I have all my vaccines, my son also has all his vaccines, and he may or may not get the covid vaccine depending on the recommendations for his age group).